Do senate Noms carry more weight in getting an appointment?

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  1. Coach62

    Coach62 Member

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    Just curious. I know it makes no difference after an appointment.

    DS just received a senatorial Nom for AFA. Does that carry more weight for an appointment than a MOC Nom?

    He also has an LOA for USNA if that makes any difference. It's more or less a toss up for him which academy with a slight preference for USNA.
     
  2. kinnem

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    No, it carries no more weight that any other nom, including a MOC nom. He has to win on his slate or get picked up off the NWL where the source of nomination isn't even examined.
     
  3. W TX DAD

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    The more noms the better, but they are all weighed the same in admissions. It just gives them more flexibility. I would say that because of the size of a Senator's constituency, those noms seem to go to the strongest applicants...so that is a good thing.

    With the LOA, he should see a MOC nom as well. LOA + nom is as good as an appointment from what I understand.
     
  4. zrh177

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    Like W TX DAD said, they carry no more official weight than a representative's nomination does. However, a representative is choosing the ten best people in his/her district while a senator is choosing the ten best people in the state. I'm no expert, but that's some good food for thought.
     
  5. Falcon A

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    It depends on where you are from and what coordination takes place (if any) among the Congressional and Senate staffs. Several threads on the forum indicate that Congressional Districts 10 & 11 in Northern Virginia in the suburbs around Washington D.C. are the most competitive districts in the nation for West Point and Annapolis. If there is good coordination among the staffs, in years past, they would work it so no one got multiple nominations in order to give all the talented kids an opportunity, and they would spread some of the District 10 and 11 top talent kids around to the Senators instead of only leaving them with their Congressman. For instance, while each Congressman had a #1, it was also true their #2 or #3 kids might be able to be the Senator's #1 because he or she had a better record than a kid from another part of the state. In other words, it is complicated and it all depends.

    I agree with kinnen -- it really doesn't matter. Be happy with any nomination.
     
  6. Coach62

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    My DS is very happy with the NOM and it's hard to imagine him not getting an appointment but you never know.

    He's hoping to get a Nom for USNA also. He just had his MOC interview today and said it went really well.

    He said they didn't ask him anything really. They just kept saying that they didn't have any questions and that he looked like a very strong candidate. That sounds promising but you never know.
     
  7. Falcon A

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    Best wishes to all applicants -- truly

    Please keep in mind that all candidates should have a strong "Plan B" -- even if you have a nomination . . .

    The way the numbers work out is like this . . . Army, Navy and Air Force each have about 1200 slots each year for each entering Service Academy class. (others can tell you the numbers for USCGA and USMMA, but the their numbers are even smaller.) Approximately 500 of those 1200 slots are for those with a Principal Nomination for the respective Congressman or Senator. Approximately 200 of the slots are used for recruited athletes and/or those with a nomination and an LOA. Everyone else across the country is competing for one of the remaining approximately 500 slots at each school, and Army, Navy and AF will chose the candidates that meet their needs. They will not necessarily chose to the "most qualified" candidate . . . every candidate selected will be "qualified" . . . but not every candidate chosen will be the "most qualified" . . . just the way it works . . .
     
  8. Coach62

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    Yep, his plan B is FSU and he was just accepted there yesterday.
     
  9. Sydney C.

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    As Gertrude Stein one famously said "A Nom is a Nom is a Nom".
     

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