DS is a junior and would like to go AF, either at USAFA or through ROTC, and would like to major in Aeronautical Engineering (he says; the world can be very clear at 16!). Looking strictly at academics, I'm curious how the engineering programs at USAFA and USNA rank compared to other engineering programs. I have tried looking at rankings, but since the academies do not have graduate programs I can never find them on the same lists with other schools he is investigating (VT and GT specifically); even when ranking undergraduate programs they have separate lists for undergrad schools with or without grad programs. Can anyone speak to how the academics compare or provide a link that would have these schools on the same list?