Few Questions About AFROTC

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  1. Phyzix

    Phyzix Member

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    Hello!

    I'm currently a senior and am looking forward to doing AFROTC in college! Since I was little I've always wanted to join the military but I also wanted to go to college and have an education. My parents want me to become a doctor but I want to show them I can do well in AFROTC too. That's my background.

    Now here are my following questions:

    1. How much do sports affect AFROTC scholarship chances? I wrestled for one year but can't wrestle this year because I'm going to Vietnam since my grandma is sick and well... on the verge...

    2. How do AFROTC look at your GPA? I didn't do so hot freshman year but brought it up sophomore and junior year (4.4W, 3.8W) 8AP's by the end of senior year total.

    3. I have 300 hours of community service and will have more. I'm involved in a youth group kind of similar to boy scouts where I'm a leader and help organize charities as well as local events such as TED talks.

    4. If I do not get a scholarship this year, if I go into college as a freshman, do I reapply as a high school applicant or do they look at my college GPA?

    5. On the application, I listed 3 colleges but what if I do not get into those colleges? Am I screwed?
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    How do I look? How are my chances for an AFROTC scholarship?

    UWGPA (9-11): 3.7
    WGPA (9-11): 4.25
    SAT I (M+CR): 1300
    MAJOR: Electrical Engineering

    Extracurriculars:

    1. Youth group - 8 hours a week, leadership and I also learn tools such as rope knots and morse codes.

    2. Wrestling - junior year. Wished I wrestled freshman and sophomore year but can't go back can we? :redface:

    3. 300+ hours of community service.

    4. NHS - National Honor's Society

    5. Vice President of The Academy of Sauces - Sounds like a joke but honestly the concept under it is to basically bond as a group and fundraise money to give back to the community as well as get rid of bad habits through cullinary arts.

    6. Created a college website to help people with essays and college in general.

    As you can see, I'm fairly weak applicant but do I have a chance? I only want a type 7, don't need a type 1 or 2.


    Thanks!
     
  2. mikeymikex3

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    thats awesome im a wrestler applying to AFROTC too. but i hear that they look at "the entire package" so if even though your athletic participation is looking a little dim, you can make up for it in the other areas. do your PFA and interview yet?
     
  3. Phyzix

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    No I just submitted my application for screening or something to that extent. :)
     
  4. Pima

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    First off nothing you do academically or extra curriculars during your senior year, except for new SAT/ACTs will go into your packet. Hence, the amount of APs you ended with as a junior will be what they review. Wrestling or not will not matter either.

    SATs and ACTS are best sitting, not super scored, so if 1300 is your super score than they will not use that number.

    Your cgpa will be weighted according to their algorithm . There are @ 2000 HS in the nation and they need to get the 5000+ boarded candidates on the same playing field. Your school may have a 10 point scale and a 90 is a 4.0, but another school may be on a 7 point scale and on top of that they do true weighting, so for them the GPA would be 3.72

    Just putting it out there that it can change by them. Not everyone's cgpa will change, some will go up and some will go down. Our DSs went up by 0.25 because when they looked at his HS transcript they realized that his school did not hand out As like Halloween candy. In your official transcript it is not just your grades included, but they are requested to submit how many APs are available. What the prereqs to take APs, what the weight is.. They than look at how many kids go IVy vs Private vs public vs community. They than compare your rank to the school profile.
    ~ I.E. you rank top 10% and 25% go IVY that says the curriculum is seen as competitive where in another school your rank could be 18% and 0 go Ivy. That is saying a cgpa as high as yours would be seen as the school hands out As like candy.
    ~~ I don't know if they still do this, but if you had your SAT scores sent to your five colleges and a hard copy to you look at the very bottom. There should be a graduated scale and it will show you what college board sees your cgpa at from a national level and statistically where you stand for those colleges. I know for our DS they too had his cgpa jump by the exact same .25 for his uwcgpa.

    Additionally part of your application will include your interview and your PFA , thus it would be unfair without knowing any of those answers to give an answer. That and the fact that nobody knows the pool size or the quality of the candidates in the pool or how many scholarships will be awarded this year due to budget constraints.

    Honestly à few years ago I would say you have a strong shot just based on your academics for a 7, but that was then and this is now.

    As it will always be said the AFROTC scholarship since it is really a 2 + 2 scholarship. You are guaranteed for the first 2 years and will be extended for the last 2 IF you are selected for SFT (field training after soph. year) If not selected. Chances are they will disenroll you at that time. Thus, if you need that scholarship to attend college make sure you have a plan B scholarship in place.

    Finally, remember that the selection rate is @18% from those that are boarded. Type 7 is @80% of all scholarships and 85% of all scholarships go to STEM (tech) so from there you are standing strong as being a STEM major.

    Good luck.
     
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  5. Pima

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    To answer your last two questions.

    If you do not get a HSSP, than you will apply for the ICSP (In College). They will use your college transcripts along with your SAT.

    Beware though in the last 2 out of the 4 or 5 past years they did not hold an ICSP selection board. The reason why is there is a limited pot of money for each year. If they used up all of the money for HSSP than that is going to impact the ICSP.
    ~ AFROTC knows from their own historic data how many will accept and contract from the HSSP pool, but sometimes those numbers change.
    ~~ IE many AFA candidates apply for the scholarship as plan B and a couple of years ago the AFA went from appointing 1650 to 1300. That left a lot of candidates that from previous years not contracting with AFROTC to contracting ...hundreds that they did not intend when awarding. The only way to get them back on track was to cancel the ICSP.

    I think the second time was because of sequestration. They needed to save money very quickly and canceling the ICSP was the way to do it.
    ~ Sequestration will be occurring for 9 more years.

    As for college selection the answer is no. Caveat:
    If you are awarded a 7, but they charge you more than what AFROTC deems as IS tuition than you will have to convert to a 3 year type 2.
     
  6. Phyzix

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    Thank you. I'm working on my fitness right now. So how much does this factor into the selection? Is it a pass or no pass type of deal or if you do better you get more 'points?'

    If senior year does not count I would have 4AP classes 9-11 and a 3.75 unweighted on a 10 point scale or 4.25 weighted. My SAT is not superscored and I will aim for higher.

    As for the process itself, nobody is really here to help which is why I asked the questions on this forum in hope of answers. I am at the part where I need to scan my sheets and do my PFA. Afterwards, I will receive an interview correct?

    Thanks.
     
  7. Phyzix

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    Also, for the activity sheet for the application, what do I put in the volunteer work? How many hours I did or the different type of events? The sections are somewhat confusing because it can go either way..
     
  8. Pima

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    I will let someone else answer that question. We did not assist our DS at all with his application and he applied years ago.

    If I was taking a guess without seeing the page, my question would be can you do both?

    IE volunteered Habitat for Humanity as XYZ leader 200 hours

    Or

    ABC school Habitat for Humanity club president
    Habitat for Humanity XYZ city 100 hours

    This shows two things.
    1. Is a HS EC
    2. Community EC

    Too often candidates forget that sometimes there is an overlap, but one fills a square and the other fills another. In my example, it fills the leadership square and he community hours philanthropic square.

    I will use my DS as an example regarding awards. He took both the SAT and ACT, but his ACT best sitting was higher, thus used for PAR. Under awards because he took the PSAT and scored in the top 5% he was a National Merit Semi Finalist. That was an award he placed on his resume. He had to take the PSAT, but yet for taking it he filled another square.

    Ask newer posters privately via PMS how to work your application. The clock is ticking because you need that interview done and to get there you need to finish part 1....the application, including transcripts.
     
  9. afrotc16

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    I'd say for the activities section make sure you say what you did and you can go into more depth in the resume section. That's where I'd say how many hours and maybe a project you led or something. That's what I did for my application 3 years ago... Don't know if it's still the same or not!
     

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