Gates, on eve of retirement, is sent off in fashion

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  1. HMQ

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    From today's online Washington Post:

     
  2. rkrosnar

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    Gates, on the eve of retirement....

    He will go down has one the finest leaders and americans in our countries history. It too bad he is not staying on. God Bless him and his family.

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  3. LineInTheSand

    LineInTheSand USCGA 2006

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    Not totally sure why he warrants a Medal of Freedom...


    ...it's an end of tour award at the national level.
     
  4. flieger83

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    Well...one could say it was an end of tour thingie...but typically SECDEF gets the DSM from all the services for the "end of tour." I haven't seen any announcement of that.

    Now...the MofF? If you look at the award criteria, there are only two: First, it's awarded by POTUS requiring no advice, consent, etc. Second, the award is supposed to be for: "... It recognizes those individuals who have made "an especially meritorious contribution to the security or national interests of the United States, world peace, cultural or other significant public or private endeavors."

    I'd say what he's done for two POTUS's in the role of SECDEF rises to that level. Just my opinion.

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  5. Hooah1775

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    SECDEF Gates served this great country extremely well! Well deserved/earned honor!

    Let's pray the SECDEF Panetta has the deep convictions that Mr. Gates had in regards to providing our military with the best and supporting them with all his power, will and might!

    God bless the USA!

    Happy 4th and all the best to Mr. Gates and his family!

    Thank you for your service, Mr. Gates!
     
  6. LineInTheSand

    LineInTheSand USCGA 2006

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    Total of how many years? I forget. I guess it's important to remember that the Medal of Freedom is the highest civilian award, by no where near the Medal of Honor.

    How do you think Gates has shown more dedicated service than past secretaries of any kind? Past Sec. of Transportation and Commerce served two presidents, was a Congressman, and served in the U.S. Army...don't remember him getting an award. They both manage policy, personnel and budgets.
     
  7. HMQ

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    Gates Bio (from DOD website)

    From the Department of Defense:

     
  8. flieger83

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    LITS,

    I think you're missing the point here; and I don't mean that negatively or confrontationally.

    I have been in uniform for 32 years and under a LOT of SECDEF'S. The only ones that really made an impression upon me at my level (I don't wear stars) were Weinberger, Rumsfeld, and Gates.

    I think the reason they stand out is because they seemed to transcend party and worked for the good of the men and women in uniform. I didn't always agree with the policies they implemented, or the directives that came out of the Office of the SECDEF but I never for a second doubted the sincerity of the commitment of those three. They just seemed to be wholly focused upon the their duty to the country and the military members more than upon how the POTUS, Congress, Senate, media, etc. would "take" their actions.

    As for "who is more worthy" or whose service was "more dedicated" I don't think any one of us can say as to my knowledge none of us on the forums wears stars and worked in the "E" ring (closely) with the SECDEF. TPG is, I think, the closest as a member of the SES (Senior Executive Service) but I don't know how closely he might have worked with the office of the SECDEF.

    That determination is reserved for POTUS. I did a quick search just now...

    Caspar Weinberger - Presidential Medal of Freedom with Great Distinction
    Donald Rumsfeld - Presidential Medal of Freedom with Great Distinction
    Robert Gates - Presidential Medal of Freedom

    It would appear to me that they were deemed highly successful by the
    POTUS.

    Oh, and if your example was Secretary Mineta...he was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom in 2006.

    Steve
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  9. LineInTheSand

    LineInTheSand USCGA 2006

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    Ah see, my Wikipedia skills are not so hot. I didn't find that information. Thanks for the heads up!
     

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