Honors/AP

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  1. 2ndLTgray

    2ndLTgray Member

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    Right now I'm a freshmen taking 3 honors classes.
    Next Year I'll be taking 6 honors and 1 AP.

    Does West Point look at both honors and AP or just AP? And if so, is it only certain honors/AP classes?
     
  2. BlindROTC

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    If your school weights GPA, then honors and AP classes would improve your class ranking, which is a very important factor. But you have to do well in those classes.
     
  3. Casey

    Casey USMA 2015

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    They'll look at how rigorous your course load. Obviously, more honors versus regular level classes will show you are taking a harder course load and make your file stronger. As BlindROTC said, it can also help your GPA is honors get weighted as well as AP in your GPA calculations. I didn't take any AP's freshman/sophomore year, just honors level course load, and since then have had a great number of AP's as well a continuing with the honors level and I earned an appointment this year
     
  4. 2ndLTgray

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    Thanks for the help guys
     
  5. Seanaf

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    Does west point look at both weighted and unweighted GPA?
     
  6. USMA2016

    USMA2016 Appointee - Class of 2016

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    They look at class rank, because GPAs are usually very different metrics from school to school. For example, let's say School A only offers one AP class while School B offers 10 AP classes. The valedictorian of each school is going to have a strikingly different GPA. Instead, class rank measures you against your immediate peers.
     
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    Some high schools do not rank. From what I understand, admissions then reviews your weighted GPA, course work, school profile & how many kids go onto 4 year universities. IMO, I think it is better to have a higher GPA mixed with regular, honors and AP classes than take all AP type courses...and struggle. Play to your strengths.
     
  8. xenarian

    xenarian Cadet, Class of 2015

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    I took honors math courses only for my first three years, everything else in "basic" placement, and maintained a 3.9 gpa for that time.
    This year, I actually chose the classes I liked, and ended up taking BC Calculus, AP Physics, AP English, AP Economics, AP Computer Science, and my other required courses. All of these are year-long classes, too. I would not recommend taking this course of action. Your sleep patterns will suffer. Your grades will drop. Maybe the weighting can make up for it, but I would not suggest it. Without weighting, my gpa is cumulatively now something akin to 3.75.

    Don't go as crazy as I did senior year. Take at max two or three APs at a time, and keep your GPA up elsewhere. I don't think my class selection had that huge of an impact on my admissions decision, so take a couple of honors/AP, but make sure you stay active in extracirriculars and sports and stuff like that.
     
  9. 2ndLTgray

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    My goal is to be in AP Calc, AP Physics and/or AP Chemistry when I'm a senior
     
  10. Casey

    Casey USMA 2015

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    Yea the goal is to take as many advanced placement courses as you can while still doing well. I took 3 my junior year (bio, chem, history) and that actually ended up being a harder course load than my senior year with 5 AP's (human geo, english, bc calc, physics, spanish). Know your weaknesses and strengths and make sure you don't overload yourself while also continuing to challenge yourself as much as possible.
     
  11. DWatson94

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    Admissions does not use weighted gpa's in calculating the class rank
     
  12. Casey

    Casey USMA 2015

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    No but if your school uses your weighted GPA for class rank, I would assume USMA takes that class rank instead of recalculating it so it would be a factor
     
  13. M2inOR

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    My cadet attended a high school that did not provide class rank.

    One of the factors that colleges and perhaps WP consider is that the school provides a profile of its students: 99%of graduates go on to college, and the profile lists average standardized test scores for its students and a summary of the universities students attend (from the previous year).

    This information gives a comparable profile of the strength of its students and rigor of the academic program. Also provided are the courses offered, and percent of students taking AP or honors level courses.

    A unweighted GPA of 3.5 at one school may not be the same as a 3.5 at another, unless there is some comparison to national norms.

    In the schools 150+ history, there have only been 3 or 4 students who have graduated with an unweighted 4.0 GPA.
     

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