How do I add up?

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  1. Winner

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    I'd like to get an AFROTC scholarship, but I would also go for an AROTC one as well. If I were to apply how do you think I'd do?

    GPA weighted: 3.46
    -Freshman year: 2.9
    - Sophomore year: 3.2
    - Junior year: 4.3

    SAT: 2040
    Reading: 650
    Math: 770
    Writing: 600

    Notable courses taken
    -IB Physics I
    -IB Physics II
    -IB Chemistry II
    -IB Math Studies
    -IB History I
    -IB History II
    -IB Anthropology
    -IB Theory of Knowledge
    -along with other honors/pre-ib courses taken fresh and soph year.

    Athletics
    -Lettered in Varsity Football junior + senior year
    -CAPTAIN of Varsity Football senior year
    -Lettered in Varsity Swim team junior + senior year
    -CAPTAIN of Varsity Swim team senior year
    -Lettered in Varsity track junior + senior year
    -CAPTAIN of Varsity track senior year
    -Varsity wrestling sophomore year

    Other stuff
    -Senior class Vice President
    -Member of It's Academic club
    -Regional science fair freshman + sophomore year
    -3rd place in regional science fair freshman year

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    My father was also in the Air Force for 20+ years, retired as a LTC and received an AFROTC scholarship while he was in college.
    Not sure if that helps or anything...

    I imagine I could run the 1.5 miles in just about under 10 minutes. As for the push ups and sit ups in a minute I can not say, but keep in mind of my athletics. So I imagine I'd do quite well.

    And yeah I kinda did pretty poorly freshman and sophomore year...


    So part of this is hypothetical, but what do you think my chances would be of getting an AFROTC or AROTC scholarship?

    Thanks :thumb:
     
  2. dunninla

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    good for three of the four things they look for:.

    Academics
    Leadership
    Community Involvment/ECs/volunteering
    Athletic Skill
     
  3. patentesq

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    Not to be a downer or anything, but I think you' may have missed the deadlines for both. This is your senior year, and as such, your chances of obtaining a 4-Year ROTC Scholarship are not the best at this point.

    You have very strong credentials, though. Join the ROTC unit in college, perform well, and make sure the cadre know you want a scholarship. And don't miss any deadlines.
     
  4. Winner

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    I'm actually a junior right now. Some of what I said above is just hypothetical, like the Captain of the track team. I know i'll be Captain of the Football and Swim team, but track is iffy.
    Same with senior class Vice President. Although it is very likely I will either be VP or President.

    So yeah. But say if my senior year does go as planned, how do you think I'd do?


    Also, I feel like i'm strong in everything besides my GPA. Do you think that would hurt me much?
     
  5. patentesq

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    Okay. Just know that hypotheticals are difficult for us volunteers. But here goes anyway.

    As dunninla mentioned, you have strong academic credentials. Your grades have consistently improved in your first three years (is your junior year GPA also a hypothetical?). Work hard on your classes. Very hard.

    Also, work very hard on your SAT/ACT (are your SAT scores also hypothetical?). Very hard. Get a tutor to improve your scores, if your family can afford it (even someone with a score of 35 can improve their score to 36). You'd be amazed how much you've forgotten since your sophomore year. Do NOT expect to just show up and do well. You have to practice.

    Academics are the most important of all the areas. But you show very strong leadership potential. Those two in combination are what is needed. You have the right GPA for a scholarship, but I would expect the competition to be fiercer next year as the military draws down from the sandbox wars.

    Also, your chances at AFROTC depends a great deal on your desired major (engineering is easier to secure a scholarship than a history or art, for example). Your school choice list also affects your ability to secure a scholarship. Search the forums -- there is a lot of information about this.

    Whatever you do, just apply. If you don't get a scholarship, you are in precisely the same position as if you didn't apply. The application is free, and you get to learn about a possible career path that is very, very rewarding (don't worry, if you serve on active duty, you are NOT committing to a career -- you can decide once on active duty whether a career is right for you). Plus, you get a free medical check-up in the process!

    You have about 8 months now to make your credentials as strong as they can be. Take advantage of that time. You have a major edge on your competitors because you are learning about the process now.

    Good luck.
     
  6. FloridaDad

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    What is your unweighted GPA? Depending on your college choices the GPA might be eh biggest problem.
     
  7. Winner

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    Fresh- 2.7
    Soph- 3.0
    Junior- 3.7

    Arghhh freshman and sophomore year... :thumbdown:


    My top schools include...

    University of Colorado at Boulder
    University of Wyoming
    Texas Christian University
    Worcester Polytechnic Institute
    Elon University
    Chapman University

    There a bunch more, but those are just some off the top of my head. I haven't really narrowed them down yet.
     
  8. Winner

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    I'm halfway through my junior year and have a 4.2. I have two A- which should both be A's so it would be a 4.3.

    I scored a 1910 on my first SAT. However I'm taking the Princeton review course soon for a month I believe, and I think that will help quite a bit. But yeah, it's sort of hypothetical.

    I think my top majors are...

    Aerospace engineering
    Astronomy
    Secondary Education

    In the application you list your top three majors, right? Would it be better if I didn't even include Secondary Education? What about astronomy?
     
  9. FloridaDad

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    What is your unweighted GPA?
     
  10. Jcleppe

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    A couple posts up the thread he posted his U/W GPA's for the three years.

    Freshman 2.7
    Sophomore 3.0
    Junior 3.7

    Unfortunatly that means about a 3.14 GPA so far, that could be the biggest issue you face.
     
  11. FloridaDad

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    The freshman and Sophomore years are pretty irrelevant, especially when you do a lot of college prep classes. His SAT is solid, and he is participating in a lot of extra curriculum stuff.

    Football was a ridiculous commitment at my sons school, they take it very seriously. Over 20 hours a week were taken up with football, which impacts everything else.

    My guess his Winner would have a much higher GPA if he just did one sport his senior year.
     
  12. sg1fan93

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    I'm a senior and I too had a 3.1 gpa with an SAT score 100 points above yours. You should take the ACT too. Anyway, boulder is my top school so if I recieve a scholarship there I'll let you know :thumb:
     
  13. FloridaDad

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    The GPA will be more of a problem getting into college than the ROTC. Every college have their own formula.

    For instance my DS's high school GPA is 3.4/4.6. The weighted high school score includes stuff like JROTC which he has always scored 100%/A but colleges ignore that class.

    Colleges usually use core academic subjects an they all have different weighting. For instance some give you one point extra for IB/AP, and others only award 0.5 of a point. One school weighted my sons GPA at 3.3, another school calculated it to 3.8.
     
  14. Winner

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    The fact that some only look at core classes may actually him me a bit.
    Here are my GPA's from all three years of core classes.

    Freshman: 2.95
    Sophomore: 3.33
    Junior: 4.14

    TOTAL= 3.47
    Which is just a wee bit higher than my GPA with electives and such.
     

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