How to Address an NC1?

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  1. jbrichmond22

    jbrichmond22 Member

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    Just curious as to the proper way in addressing someone with the rank of NC1? Might be an obvious question, but I just need the correct answer. Thanks
     
  2. dkkght

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    Either Sir or Petty Officer....
     
  3. Pima

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    Is that a Navy thing, NC1? Or do you mean NCOIC? I am just curious, because in the AF there is no NC1, it is NCOIC. In the AF it would be sir/mam or whatever their rank.
     
  4. bsherman92

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    Yes, NC1 is a Navy enlisted rate. An NC is a Navy Counselor (their rating, which is the Navy's equivalent of the Army/Marines' MOS and the Air Force's AFSC). The 1 indicates a Petty Officer First Class (an E-6). And dkkght is correct: an NC1 would be addressed as either "Sir" or "Petty Officer."
     
  5. Pima

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    Thanks that is interesting, I get it now...i.e. it would be like him saying AFSC XYZ.
     
  6. -Bull-

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    Yes and no. Instead of in the AF where their rank would be TSGT Smith regardless of AFSC, the Navy equivalent includes their rate when they list enlisted ranks. So Petty Officers 1st Class all look like XX1, the XX denotes their rate.

    (correct me if I'm wrong, I have some navy family so I have a general understanding)
     
  7. Jcleppe

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    So have things changed,

    When I was in the service if anyone called a Petty Officer, or any NCO, "Sir" they had a real large part of their rear end chewed off.

    Bull, your correct about the NCO Rates, BM1, QM2, SK3,,,and so on.
     
  8. Pima

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    Jcleppe,

    I get your point, but this would be a cadet/mid, so theoretically, at least for AFROTC they would still be Sir/Mam. This is where the OP is at, they are below them in rank, thus, Sir would be proper.

    Maybe, I am wrong, maybe that is an AFROTC cadet thing, but that is what DS called his NCOIC, which was a SSGT.
     
  9. Jcleppe

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    As a printed regulation that must be specific to AFROTC, maybe even NROTC, for AROTC it could be by battalion. Both my son's have said they address the NCO's by 1st Sgt and Master Sgt. never Sir, the NCO's have a lot of fun with cadets that address them as Sir. Of course other battalions could be different.

    Just as a side question. In AFROTC are underclassmen cadets required to address upperclassmen cadets as Sir.

    I noticed in a video I just viewed from Army BCT that the recruits address them as Drill Sgt, not Sir, I believe it is the same at Army LTC. Funny how all the services do things in their own way.
     
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  10. NavyHoops

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    Been a long time since I have been in my Midshipmen summer whites, but we never addressed enlisted sailors or Marines as Sir or Ma'am. For sailors we addressed them as Seaman/Fireman/Etc, Petty Officer, or Chief or with their rating and rank such as NC1 (said as "N", "C", 1) with their name on the end (So NC1 Jones for instance). For Marines it was always by their approriate rank. Staff Sergeant or above is never just a Sergeant, but full rank.
     
  11. Pima

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    I should have caveated that our DS was raised in the South, even though Bullet and I are Jersey raised. I know that he called his NCOIC Sir, because he was at home and had a paperwork issue; I heard him over the phone say Sir. It may have been a southern thing and not a military thing...my bad for assuming it was due to the military without thinking it was cultural. (My kids and their friends know that if they want to upset me, call me Mam...Mam is my MIL, I am too young to be a Mam!)

    I don't know if the 100's call the 300/400's Sir/Mam. I would assume they do from the thought of PT and drilling. Yes, Sir/Mam is a lot easier to say as a group of 100 cadets at the same time than yes Cadet Colonel Smith, especially for the 100's in the 1st weeks since their ranks are stripes on a shoulder and 3 is different than 4. All they know is 3 is higher than the 0 on their shoulder, they have yet to figure out what rank 3 is and what 4 is, add in 2, and forges, and other emblems. It is a foreign language to 99% of the 100's.

    That also places learning names too in the equation. Hard to remember how to pronounce Alishwego, (ali-sh-wego, alish-we go, a-lish-ego) when you only heard them pronounce it 1x in the crowd of 50 cadets and you were in the back!

    Again, all I know is when I attended DS's commissioning ball a poster here addressed DS as Sir when DS came to introduce me to him. This was a ball, the most informal occasion, and maybe he said Sir because this was a poster from this site and wanted to show respect in front of DS, but I think it was more that he was a GMC and DS was a POC.
     
  12. Jcleppe

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    That's how I remembered it. At BCT everything was "Sir" at OCS it was by Rate and Rank. I figured the Academy and ROTC was the same.
     
  13. CYB0RG

    CYB0RG USN Retired

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    NEVER Sir... every first class petty officer that I ever knew said don't call me sir, I work for a living... Lol.
     
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    Ha Ha! They must teach that in NCO school or something. It seems to be universal across the branches. I always got a kick out of it!
     
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    I think you're right I think they do teach it...lol.
     
  16. FalconsRock

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    Okay...here is the scoop from a former petty officer...never, ever call a Navy third, second or first class petty officer sir or ma'am. Only officers in the Navy are called sir or ma'am. If you don't know their rate you can just address them as Petty Officer. For example, NC1 Smith can be addressed as Petty Officer Smith or NC1 Smith.
     
  17. KeyzCat

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    As a Southerner I was dropped a great deal in basic due to Mam and sir mental block for about the first couple weeks. Although now it is not as funny it killed us in basic when we would go to chow and would have to call off our last name then SGT to the SGT that was stationed at door and Private Sargent in his very slow Southern drawl even more Southern than me Saaa-arrr-genttt Saarrr-gennnttt....But line most NCOs will say if called Sir or Mam is "SIR / M'am??? I work for a Living..."
     
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