Indians at USMA?

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Hey yall! I was curious as to the number of Indians (from India, not Native Americans) that are currently attending USMA, or any SA for that matter. From previous threads, I have read that Indians are not considered underrepresented minorities as we are grouped into "Asians", but would USMA look upon someone that is Indian with the same favorableness as someone of Hispanic/Native/African American descent? What about first-generation individuals?

Additionally, if there is anyone of Indian descent that is currently attending, I would love to have a conversation regarding your experiences. Please PM me if it isn't a bother!
 
Yes, there are cadets of South Asian heritage at all of the service academies including USMA. The first two Sikh cadets who wore the traditional objects of their faith graduated and commissioned with the class of 2021. For the Chaplains Time events during Beast there are also groups for Hindu cadets and for Muslim cadets. Over the years I have known several moms of South Asian heritage who have one or more cadets attend West Point (so that is not a great sample--but that I can think of one family with 3 cadets, another with 2 cadets, and three other moms with one cadet each...and of course, that are only families that I know.)

In your application you will have the opportunity to discuss being a first generation American or first to go to college if that is the case for you.
As far as international students, each class has about 15 foreign cadets but the countries seems to change from class to class. I don't know where the detailed information for each class is available but in recent years here have been cadets from Poland, Bangladesh, Peru, Thailand, and many more. I do not know if there are cadets from India.

I hope this helps to answer your questions.
 
I understand that this is typical college application stuff, but please don't "rank" the races in terms of how favorable USMA might see them. USMA occasionally might admit someone over another with equal candidate scores because of their race but don't go into applying with that mindset. I am Asian and my race has just been a small part of my application. If you are first generation, absolutely put that on there but focus on the things that you can better yourself with to make yourself more competitive and not the things you can't change.
 
jc5108 said:
I understand that this is typical college application stuff, but please don't "rank" the races in terms of how favorable USMA might see them. USMA occasionally might admit someone over another with equal candidate scores because of their race but don't go into applying with that mindset. I am Asian and my race has just been a small part of my application. If you are first generation, absolutely put that on there but focus on the things that you can better yourself with to make yourself more competitive and not the things you can't change.
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You are completely right, and I sincerely apologize for coming off that way as it was never my intention for “ranking” different races. I recently had a conversation with a teacher and they mentioned this subject so I thought I would ask on here to gather some insight. Thank you!
 
USMA sets class profile objectives for multiple characteristics, including race. So, yes some candidates will receive preference based on race, and there is nothing wrong with acknowledging that fact.

Where USMA differs from civilian colleges is that non-merit preference is introduced in a specific appointment category, Additional Appointee, which by law allows admissions to make appointments out of order of merit. Recruited athletes, minorities, and others who do not win an appointment in a competitive category are usually appointed as Additional Appointees if admissions deems it necessary to meet objectives.

A salient point is that no candidate is denied an appointment in a competitive category due to preferential treatment of another candidate. Slate winners and Qualified Alternates are determined strictly on merit, with the possible exception of a MOC using a Principal Nomination, but that is out of the control of admissions.
 
bigbody said:
Hey yall! I was curious as to the number of Indians (from India, not Native Americans) that are currently attending USMA, or any SA for that matter. From previous threads, I have read that Indians are not considered underrepresented minorities as we are grouped into "Asians", but would USMA look upon someone that is Indian with the same favorableness as someone of Hispanic/Native/African American descent? What about first-generation individuals?

Additionally, if there is anyone of Indian descent that is currently attending, I would love to have a conversation regarding your experiences. Please PM me if it isn't a bother!
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DrMom said:
Yes, there are cadets of South Asian heritage at all of the service academies including USMA. The first two Sikh cadets who wore the traditional objects of their faith graduated and commissioned with the class of 2021. For the Chaplains Time events during Beast there are also groups for Hindu cadets and for Muslim cadets. Over the years I have known several moms of South Asian heritage who have one or more cadets attend West Point (so that is not a great sample--but that I can think of one family with 3 cadets, another with 2 cadets, and three other moms with one cadet each...and of course, that are only families that I know.)

In your application you will have the opportunity to discuss being a first generation American or first to go to college if that is the case for you.
As far as international students, each class has about 15 foreign cadets but the countries seems to change from class to class. I don't know where the detailed information for each class is available but in recent years here have been cadets from Poland, Bangladesh, Peru, Thailand, and many more. I do not know if there are cadets from India.

I hope this helps to answer your questions.
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Good Afternoon Ma'am
My Name Is Mirza Affan & I am from India and Looking to Join USMA
Ma'am I've got an letter from USMA West Point, Unfortunately I am not selected for SLE(Summers Leader Experience)
Could U look after the letter & guide me through
could you please provide me your email so I'll send you the letter
 
I am an Indian and my son (first generation American) applied to USMA class of 2028 and he got rejected even with fully qualified with multiple nominations. So I don't think Indian is considering as an underrepresented but at the same time I hardly seen Indians applying to SA
 
My 2027 DS has two South Asia Indian friends, and I know there are several others in his company. As a parent, we engage with many families of the class, and I would say we have talked with several Indian families. I know thats anecdotal information, but if it was an underrepresented group, I wouldn't expect to have had the opportunity to meet many. The total minority percentage is nearly 40%, so its statistically in line with what you would expect from a cross section of the US.
 
DP08 said:
I am an Indian and my son (first generation American) applied to USMA class of 2028 and he got rejected even with fully qualified with multiple nominations. So I don't think Indian is considering as an underrepresented but at the same time I hardly seen Indians applying to SA
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It's true that in California, applicants to SA are not proportional to Asian population here, people seems are more interested in getting in IVY/stanford/MIT.. and secure a high-pay job later. While, as a first-gen asian American, my DS is joining USMA, and will be servicing the country. Go Army !
 
Xdian said:
It's true that in California, applicants to SA are not proportional to Asian population here, people seems are more interested in getting in IVY/stanford/MIT.. and secure a high-pay job later. While, as a first-gen asian American, my DS is joining USMA, and will be servicing the country. Go Army !
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Congratulations!
 
bigbody said:
Hey yall! I was curious as to the number of Indians (from India, not Native Americans) that are currently attending USMA, or any SA for that matter. From previous threads, I have read that Indians are not considered underrepresented minorities as we are grouped into "Asians", but would USMA look upon someone that is Indian with the same favorableness as someone of Hispanic/Native/African American descent? What about first-generation individuals?

Additionally, if there is anyone of Indian descent that is currently attending, I would love to have a conversation regarding your experiences. Please PM me if it isn't a bother!
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Asian was under represented before and is going up recent years.
 
I have seen many Americans with heritage from India and surrounding nations apply to the Service Academies from my Congressional District and have personally interviewed several. They are definitely represented among the appointees that I've seen over the past few years.
On a related note, I've personally interviewed and sent 14 boys to Boys State for this year from communities in my area and I think that four are South Asian.
 
Xdian said:
It's true that in California, applicants to SA are not proportional to Asian population here, people seems are more interested in getting in IVY/stanford/MIT.. and secure a high-pay job later. While, as a first-gen asian American, my DS is joining USMA, and will be servicing the country. Go Army !
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Congratulations !!! I am sure "Xidian" (West Point) sounds a lot more prestigious than any college including HYPMT in your home country !
 
I'm Indian by ethnicity but am a U.S. citizen. Both my parents were born in India. I'm committed to West Point for Co2028. I don't think my race really helped/hurt me in the process. If you're curious I posted my stats before so you can probably see it through my profile
 
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