Is there some sort of guaranteed enlistment-to-USNA program?

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  1. AcademyFriend1

    AcademyFriend1 Member

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    Hi, folks--

    By way of background, I am a high school teacher who, because I am a USMC veteran (via PLC a long time ago), has ended up as a resource for students at our school interested in the service or the SAs. One young man, a current senior whom I taught earlier in high school, has applied to USNA and has a congressional nomination. He is a strong student, with SAT scores over 2100 combined, but is playing the waiting game.

    Today when I asked him about his "Plan B and Plan C" if not offered an appointment to USNA, he told me that his alternate plan is to enlist under a program that guarantees a slot at USNA after 2 years in the Fleet for students with 700+ Math and CR SAT scores. I've not heard of such a program (he called it something like "2 for 5"). My not having heard of it doesn't mean it doesn't exist, of course, but I am a bit worried that a recruiter may have taken a likelihood that a student with such good grades and scores will be offered a chance at USNA coming out of the Fleet, and spun it into what this young man thinks is a "program" with a guarantee. He is smart but rather naive.

    Has anyone heard of something like this? I have a contact at USNA Admissions to consult but this is a busy time of year so I thought I'd also ask some of the helpful posters at SA Forums.

    Thanks.
     
  2. Hurricane12

    Hurricane12 USNA 2012

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    I have NEVER heard of that. Considering the convoluted path most priors take to get to USNA, I doubt it exists.
     
  3. popeyesmom

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    I have not heard of such a program and doubt there are "guarantees". "2 for 7" usually refers to the 2 years at USNA before you sign your contract to complete the other 2 years and serve 5 years.
     
  4. kinnem

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    It seems to me if there were such a program we would all know about it. Information would be found on various websites and there would be several threads on this forum. I think your student is being sold a bill of goods. I would tell him to ask to see information about the program in writing which he should probably do whenever talking to a recruiter. :eek:

    Should you find out about such a program, plase let us know. I know thousands of kids who would love to go this route if it exists. :rolleyes:
     
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    There are various enlisted-to-officer programs out there, in addition to USNA route. I have not heard of a "guaranteed" enlisted-to-USNA, but programs always adjust to the needs of the Navy, so it's possible. Given the scope of posters we have here on the forums, it would be likely someone would know.

    It's not an easy road. Gotta excel as an enlisted person, jump through all the admin hoops, prepare a package, get support from the chain of command, and oh yes, could be doing all this while standing watch and working possibly while deployed at sea.

    For enlisted accession to USNA, I copied this info from USNA Admissions link:
    http://www.usna.edu/admissions/stactive.htm

    It seems to me I always hear the USNA "seats" set aside for Fleet and Corps enlisted accessions are never fully used up each year. Don't know the facts on that, Admissions would for any given year.

    Copied text from USNA site follows:

    Active Duty:

    The United States Naval Academy offers an outstanding opportunity for qualified enlisted members of the regular Navy, Naval Reserves, Marine Corps, and other armed forces to embark on careers as officers in the U.S. Navy or U.S. Marine Corps.

    Regular and Reserve Navy and Marine Corps service members compete for 170 appointments. Apply via your Commanding Officer in accordance with OPNAVINST 1420.1 or MARINE CORPS ORDER 1530.11(series); commanding officer's endorsement must accompany application. To receive a SECNAV nomination, a candidate must possess a combined SAT score (verbal and math) of 1050, or ACT equivalent combined score of 46 (English and math). Be advised these scores are minimums and are lower than the competitive levels for entrance into the Naval Academy, but will place a candidate in contention for NAPS based on the whole person concept. The Naval Academy Preparatory School (NAPS) provides an excellent means to get back into the school environment for service members that have been out of the classroom.

    Teacher recommendations are not required for applicants who have been out of school for more than 1 year, instead, recommendations are required from two commissioned officers. In addition to the Secretary of the Navy nomination, applicants are encouraged to apply for congressional nominations.

    If offered an appointment to the Naval Academy, candidates must extend their enlistment and/or active duty agreement in order to have a minimum of 24 months of active obligated service remaining as of 1 July of the entering year. Candidates who are selected for NAPS will be required to have a minimum of 24 months obligated service as of 1 July of the year that they will enter the Preparatory School. NAPS graduates who are appointed to the Naval Academy will be required to have a minimum of 24 months active obligated service as of 1 July of the year that they will enter the Naval academy. To acquire the obligated service required under this paragraph, extensions of enlistment and/or active duty agreements may be executed in accordance with MILPERSMAN articles 1050150 and 1050200. Extensions of enlistment and active duty agreements are to be prepared and executed on NAVPERS 1070/621 or NAVPERS 1070/622. Under the current law, midshipmen who graduate will receive a commission in either the Navy or Marine Corps and are obligated to a 5-year commitment following commissioning.

    (CAPT MJ note, these are live links at the website above)
    Download Checklist for Fleet Applicants
    Download OPNAVINST 1420.1B
    Download ALNAV Message
    Download MARADM Message
    Download Marine Corps Flyer Flyer
    Download Navy Flyer
     
  7. AcademyFriend1

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    Thanks to all for the thoughtful comments -- I will talk to our school's college office and see if we can work together to make sure this young man has the most accurate information. It may be a moot point--he could still be offered an appointment for the Class of 2016--but a little more investigation in the meantime won't hurt.

    Thanks again.
     
  8. kinnem

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    There is also MECEP for Marines but no guarantees there either.
     

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