Jeremiah Weed

[luckymacy]

ha, you never know when this weed is going to sprout

So my sister and I are talking this afternoon about the 'Bowl and about her work at Nellis in the CAOC-N and Red Flag buildings and the parties in the chapel and sure enough, Mr Weed pops up. Apparently he's pretty popular at the altar with the Army, Navy, Marine and Allied aircrews too. In fact, she said they go though tons of the stuff... That $20 landing fee each class member pays up front buys a lot of it! I never knew she partook but should have, she's a damn good officer. I have a new nickname for little sister now!

 

[Pima]

Honestly, without the military I am pretty sure that Weed would not exist.

It's funny you can always tell if you are in a military town...go to a bar or restaurant and if they have a military installation, chances are there will be Weed on their shelves...go somewhere the military isn't a pull and they will look at you like you have 3 craniums on your shoulders when you ask for a shot...even if they do have it, it's that bottle with 2" of dust on the bottle.

 

[Just_A_Mom]

That sounds pretty good. I found someone I know who's drunken the stuff and they say it's meant to be drunk a lot in a short period of time to get wasted. A shot or two tastes like crap but starting with the 3rd or 4th it starts to get a lot better. I asked if that's cuz you're already drunk and their answer is not yet but you will be very shortly after the 4th or 5th...So how many shots does Bullet nail down at this infamous party?

Please, we don't want to know.
It's bad enough that getting drunk on Weed by Fighter pilots after their flights (would make interesting CNN video) on a forum intended for high school kids but please let's not be condoning binge drinking here.
Someone might come away with the impression that all fighter pilots have impluse issues at best and are alcoholics at worst.

 

[Pima]

Just for clarification. These guys do not do this after flight. Actually it is really reserved for toasting. There are regs about drinking in the pilot world. You cannot consume alcohol for 12 (?, maybe it is 8)hrs prior to a flight. These guys after a duty day are like any other person who works, wants to get the heck out of there and back home. If they have a flight at 10 a.m., that means they are back in the squadron by 7 a.m., and by the time they finish that flight it is about 5 p.m. They are tired and hanging with the boys to get drunk isn't going to happen when they need to get home and take the kids to a soccer game or mow the lawn. Go into a hooch on M-Th after 3-4 pm and it is empty. Friday is commanders call, and they may have a beer or 2 at that time. Also, many CC's will shut down the hooch @ 6-6:30 even on Friday night, if you want to continue to drink you go to the club...we all know how unsuccessful clubs are these days, so that should tell you there isn't this enormous amount of drinking happening.

In the 20 yrs of marriage to Bullet, I can count on one hand when he consumed any Weed during a work weekday. Again it was to toast, and usually those toasts were to a fallen comrade that they just lost.

Weed is a tradition in the AF, just like Crud. It is something that exists, and nobody here would want it implied or inferred that they take a shot of this 7 days a week. Afterall if you know the tradition, you would also know that they would than have some drops of it in their hair 7 days a week...take the shot, and hold the inverted shot glass over your cranium as proof that you consumed all of it.

Those 4,5 shots really occurred more often at naming ceremonies when you do something that is considered buffonery...of course the more shots you have the more of a buffoon you become. It is a bad cycle you don't want to get into, not only because of the hangover, but unfortunately your call sign may come from acting like a buffoon.

 

[Christcorp]

Please, we don't want to know.
It's bad enough that getting drunk on Weed by Fighter pilots after their flights (would make interesting CNN video) on a forum intended for high school kids but please let's not be condoning binge drinking here.
Someone might come away with the impression that all fighter pilots have impluse issues at best and are alcoholics at worst.

Not to start anything, but I'm curious where you get your information from that fighter pilots get drunk on Jeremiah Weed after their flights. And I think you are totally in left field if you believe anyone is going to believe that air force pilots are alcoholics and have impulse issue.

Granted, Luckymacy mentioned "Hearing" from someone that they get drunk on the stuff. But if that's true, then that is an isolated cases, and I know for a FACT, that you have NEVER heard anyone hear mention drinking a lot of it, or getting drunk on it. Matter of fact; I would say that I am in the minority of people who even like the taste of it. And even then, I don't "Drink" it. I do, as most air force pilots and personnel do, "TOAST WITH IT". And I have spent more time in officer's clubs and enlisted clubs around the world, to tell you that people aren't drinking Weed to get "Drunk" on it.

And PIMA is 100% correct, that while many people believe the life of a pilot, (Especially Fighter Pilot), is one of none stop adrenaline, partying, and living on the edge. Well, that simply isn't true either. Yes; there is a certain rush when inside that cockpit. I've had the "Honor" to have had an incentive flight in a couple of jets. F-4's. Whether it's the 1st or 1000th Sortie, it's definitely something indescribable. But once on the ground, it still just your job. And as such, people just want to go home to their families. They aren't hitting the bottle after each landing. Again; I think you're ready way too much into this.

DrJunge: Didn't forget you. I am bad on names. if you can tell me your brother's name (PM me), I'll let you know if i remember him. It's been over 25 years. It's a little difficult to remember that far back. later... mike.....

 

[luckymacy]

Not to start anything, but I'm curious where you get your information from that fighter pilots get drunk on Jeremiah Weed after their flights. And I think you are totally in left field if you believe anyone is going to believe that air force pilots are alcoholics and have impulse issue.

Granted, Luckymacy mentioned "Hearing" from someone that they get drunk on the stuff. But if that's true, then that is an isolated cases, and I know for a FACT, that you have NEVER heard anyone hear mention drinking a lot of it, or getting drunk on it. Matter of fact; I would say that I am in the minority of people who even like the taste of it. And even then, I don't "Drink" it. I do, as most air force pilots and personnel do, "TOAST WITH IT". And I have spent more time in officer's clubs and enlisted clubs around the world, to tell you that people aren't drinking Weed to get "Drunk" on it.

Ha, this is hilarious. Just ignore her, I do even when she's dead wrong on facts, it's funner that way. My brother, the ex Navy SeaBee and in his day one of biggest party animals you'd ever meet, is the one who filled me in on the quantity affect - not that it's anyone's business on this forum. When I was on active duty back in the 80s & early 90s, I don't recall ever hearing of the stuff myself. No, at Red Flag they aren't coming in out of the heat and getting ripped on Weed on a daily basis but when the exercise is finished they know how to let some steam off, so I've heard... I'll be there in April, maybe I'll give a report.

 

[Bullet]

And PIMA is 100% correct, that while many people believe the life of a pilot, (Especially Fighter Pilot), is one of none stop adrenaline, partying, and living on the edge. Well, that simply isn't true either.

Not true for WSOs either.

The days of yore many of us old craniums remember are quickly joining the dinosaur. What was "acting out on a Friday because it was expected that your worked hard Mon - Fri afternoon and played hard Friday night", has become "honoring traditions in appropriate ways at appropriate times."

The "work hard Monday thru Friday" aspect remains. In fact, Pima got it wrong (but don't tell her I said that! ), standard show time for a sortie is FOUR hours prior to takeoff in order to mission plan. You're late = clearly means you either you don't want to fly that day, or aren't prepared to fly that day. Doors shut precisely on time, so don't be late either. So, for a typical 0900 t/o, you need to be in place and ready to start at 0500; and Gosh how I hated those 0800 t/o's!

But today we also take our traditions of honoring those before us very seriously. Play a little Crud once in a while, drink a few toasts to those before us, make sure we celebrate those joining us today with a great naming ceremony.... Things like that.

And if CNN has a problem with me downing a shot of Weed in remembrance of those I knew and left behind? To "throwing another nickle on the grass...?" Well, they can feel free to report the situation; I'll simply offer a different type of toast to them in response. Better yet, I'd probably just ask them to join me...

 

[Bullet]

No, at Red Flag they aren't coming in out of the heat and getting ripped on Weed on a daily basis but when the exercise is finished they know how to let some steam off, so I've heard... I'll be there in April, maybe I'll give a report.

Do yourself a favor. Get to the O'Club on the first Friday night of the exercise (Day 5). Get a good seat overlooking the Crud room. Better yet, get your name on the board for "next team". Bring a lot of cash, and remember hold at least a $20 bill over your cranium at the bar or you'll never be able to get to the bartender's attention.

Don't make plans for anything prior to noon the next morning....

 

[luckymacy]

Do yourself a favor. Get to the O'Club on the first Friday night of the exercise (Day 5). Get a good seat overlooking the Crud room. Better yet, get your name on the board for "next team". Bring a lot of cash, and remember hold at least a $20 bill over your cranium at the bar or you'll never be able to get to the bartender's attention.

Don't make plans for anything prior to noon the next morning....

Oh man, I haven't played Crud in 20 to 25 years. I think I still have a bruise or two from it. Will do if able. thx!

 

[futureAFA]

Is Weed strictly a pilots drink, or do other people drink it in the AF community for toasts?

 

[LineInTheSand]

I know non-pilots in the AF who drink it.

 

[Christcorp]

Is Weed strictly a pilots drink, or do other people drink it in the AF community for toasts?

It's more commonly known among the pilot community; however, many air force individuals drink it. Every single Air Force Falcon football game, at our tail-gate (Thudgate), at the end, prior to shutting down the tailgate and going to the game, we ALWAYS pull out the jeremiah weed and dixie cups and pour everyone at the tailgate (Over 21 years old) a shot. We then make a toast. It always includes a toast to our cadets and their futures, as well as the team, but it also is to those before us and those no longer with us. We've had a lot of special guests at our "Thudgate"; including generals active/retired; 9-11 trade center police and fire fighters we invited.

So while it's more common among the fighter pilot community, there are quite a few non-fighter jocks who respect the tradition and toast with it.

 

[Pima]

That's the thing about Weed it is an AF tradition, not to get drunk on, but to toast/honor those who have walked before you and those who walk after you.

Guys in the fighter world buy bottles for buffonery...basically they made Betty Beaachhed...over g, over g!

They don't buy it to consume it, they buy it because, unlike Mike, they don't usually like the taste and hopefully they will not do that again.

The best way I can explain watching someone take a Weed shot, is watch someone take Nyquil. Swallow it and do the head shake left to right and then squint their eyes and stick out their tongue.

Now who in their right mind besides Mike would want to do this?

PS Mike how much ice do you have to take with you for tailgating to keep that crap frozen?

 

[flieger83]

This year at the USAFA v USNA game...

I think the bottles were in an entire ice-chest!

It was...COLD!!!

Steve
USAFA ALO
USAFA '83

 

[Christcorp]

Yea; we keep it pretty much frozen. There's usually 2 of us who bring the weed. It starts off frozen before we get there, then it's kept at at the bottom of an ice chest covered in ice until the toast. I have had it warm, and it is pretty harsh. But cold/frozen, I don't mind it.

But Pima; just so you know that I'm not totally void of brain cells; the only time I drink any weed is before the 12 falcon football games each year for our toast. Outside of that; maybe 2 times a year. Memorial Day and Veteran's day. It's not something I could/would drink as a "Normal" drink. But the taste doesn't really bother me either. Then again; my Sensei would have us join him for a ceremonial toast after class, and we'd have Saki. You drink it exactly the opposite of Weed. You warm it up until it's exactly the same temperature as the body. This way it goes down smooth. If you drink Saki when it's cool/cold, it's really tough to get down. But after drinking that, and a few other things, Weed isn't all that bad.