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  1. Roman

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    I heard that cadets are required to take a foreign language. I believe that for AFROTC you are only required to if you have a nontechnical major. So at the Academy does everyone have to take a foreign language or only the nontechnicals?
     
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    flieger83 Super Moderator Moderator

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    Everyone.

    Unless you can "validate" out of one.

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  3. Roman

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    How many classes are required and how hard is it to minor in a language? Thanks.
     
  4. flieger83

    flieger83 Super Moderator Moderator

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    UNLESS my classmate Dana has changed the curriculum, you require a full year. How "hard" is it to minor in a language?

    To be honest, I don't know. I'm not certain that you can "minor" in a language. I'd have to do some checking.

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  5. Roman

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    I found this: "we offer 2 minors. A minor is optional and is earned in addition to the cadet's major. The 2 minors are: Foreign Language, Philosophy"
     
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    Do they offer the tagalog language (Philippines) as a course?
     
  7. buffalo

    buffalo USAFA 2013

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    I was under the impression that it is two years for a technical major, three years if not. And minoring is possible, especially if you place into a higher level. I believe you need to take either two or three classes above the 300 level. Upperclassman, feel free to make corrections. I am going off what I think I remember my ac advisor saying a couple weeks ago. I am not sure.
     
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    raimius USAFA Alumnus

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    At least for 2010 a minor is 4 classes and only 200 level and above can count. So, if you start out in the introductory 100 level, you will need to take 6 classes for a minor.

    I'm pretty sure everyone in the incomming classes is required to take 2 foreign language classes. They instituted that for 2011 and beyond. 2010 techie majors do not need a foreign language.
     
  9. flyersboy114

    flyersboy114 USAFA Cadet

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    no they do not
     
  10. flieger83

    flieger83 Super Moderator Moderator

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    Which is precisely what I found a moment after I wrote my last.

    See, we ALO's don't know everything...:smile:

    We just have access to those that do! :thumb:

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  11. Don

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    Minor = more pay?

    I heard that if you graduate with a language minor, that you would earn higher pay.
    This is from a Blue and Gold officer last year.

    1. Is that true? 2. For the Air Force too? 3. How much?
     
  12. HNeedle

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    you have to take a proficiency test and do very well on that before you earn any extra money.

    for us, non techie majors have to take 4 semesters of a language. techie have to take at least 2. a minor is still 4 classes at or above the 200 level... so in my case, i validated into german 222, which means all i have to take for my german minor is 222, 321, and 322.
     
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    How uncommon is it for a cadet to major in aerospace engineering and minor in Japanese. I know that these are somewhat conflicting areas of studies so I do not know if the academy would allow me to do this. Is this such a strange situation that it is almost unheard of or is it common enough for me to be able to get a contact of someone who recently went through this process.
     
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    You can do it..
     
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    I know that I can do it. I just want to know how common it is as well if i could find some contact info for someone that had done or is doing it.
     
  16. raimius

    raimius USAFA Alumnus

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    First, there is no "aerospace" here. USAFA has aeronautical and astronautical engineering.

    As for minoring in a language, how difficult it will be depends on your current level. To minor, you need 4 semesters at or above the 200 level. If you are new to a language, you will need to take 6 classes. If you can place into the higher levels, you'll only need 4. Now aero and astro already have a fairly heavy course load (being techie majors). If you go for it, you'll probably have a few 7 class semesters (which can get rough).
     
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    Sorry about the wrong terminology. I have looked at other colleges who have called it aerospace engineering so I got them mixed up. I will have had two years of high school language classes in Japanese so I think that I will be able to skip the seven class semesters. By the way, do the classes for Japanese go high enough for fluency or almost fluency? That is what I am going for so it would be pointless to do it without being fluent unless I got the rest of it later.
     
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    Downfall75 USAFA Cadet

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    I'm an Aero major and I'm also minoring in Chinese. It's a lot easier for me since I was placed into a higher level Chinese class, therefore I only need to take one more year of Chinese to minor in it before my major courses start.
     
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    i'm sure there are a lot of people who have done it. i know a lot of my friends here are looking into astro/russian combo. i'm thinking about it too, but we'll see. that will be pretty rough
     
  20. fencersmother

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    garretm: please don't just assume that because you have had two years of a language in high school that 1) you will validate ANY portion of the language requirements; 2) you will even be assigned the language which you studied in high school.

    Case in point: my sons' dear friend from SoCal had 4 years of AP Spanish in high school, all As- this cadet validated only the first semester of Spanish.

    I believe that languages are still assigned on a "needs of the Air Force" basis with some input from the cadet. For instance, just because you want to study German doesn't mean you will.
     

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