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  1. marydan

    marydan New Member

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    does anyone know the monetary commitment that they would owe the academy if they were to leave now or if there is any?
     
  2. shutterbugC

    shutterbugC Member

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    It is my understanding from another parent whose son left that the monetary commitment doesn't begin until their 2/c year. Please correct me if I am incorrect.
     
  3. kpmom2011

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    To the best of my knowledge your "commitment" or payback does not kick in until you step on campus first day of your 2nd Class Year.
     
  4. kp2001

    kp2001 USMMA Alumnus

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    The above information is correct.

    The opportunity cost is much higher though!
     
  5. zonker

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    2001 is wayyy correct.
    It seems early to be making such a large decision... although if they are trolling facebook and still seeing pics of their buddies playing at the beach, it's a bit of a downer. same thing will happen at Thanksgiving/Christmastime, but moreso.

    However, dedication discipline and determination to graduate are key factors.
    But he's got to be there for his OWN reasons.

    --Good luck with this.
     
  6. luv2fly

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    It might be time for a little tough love.

    This story comes from a very dear friend. A few years ago he was at USNA. After about four weeks of plebe summer he had enough. Called dad and said I made a mistake and I want to come home. This place is not for me. Not enough food. Not enough sleep. It's just to hard to deal with. Dad says I'll be down this evening to pick to you up. Older brother calls USNA to see where to pick him up at. Older brother talks to younger brother to see why he wants to come home. Older brother tells younger brother that you have the opportunity of a life time. Why don't you stick it out for a couple more weeks and see what happens. If at that time you want to quit, call and I'll come get you.(I'm giving you the nice version of what was said.) Dear friend never called his brother or his father to come home. He thanks his older brother every day for that talk. Today dear friend has the word Captain in front of his name USN. I can't tell you what he does today, because you'll figure out who he is. Dear friend offered to play bad cop for my DS last year if he needed it.

    Good Luck, with the talk
     
  7. usmma2014dotcom

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    The one I heard .....

    The one I heard was the D/S D/D called Dad and wanted to come home. The Dad asked if the D/S D/D remembered why they wanted to go to the academy and all the hard work in getting there. The D/S D/D did.

    The Dad hung up.

    D/S D/D stuck it out and never looked back.
     
  8. rkrosnar

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    LUV2FLY,

    I could not have said it any better, just a great story. Someone, in the story or even you have alot of wisdom.

    rgk
     
  9. jamzmom

    jamzmom Founding Member

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    And Jamz thanks his Dad for hanging up on him every time he thinks back on it. We laugh now but at the time..... well.....lets just say physics I & II/calc I & II in the same year almost kicked his butt with both feet. He got by it but it wasn't pretty to watch. Or to listen to the constant salty mouth tirade that came with it. What the LT didn't tell you guys is that he didn't talk to us for two weeks after that little episode. Almost crushed me. :rolleyes:

    The place isn't for everyone. Its been said a million times. But don't let them kill you with the emails & phone calls saying they can't do it or they hate it and they're done. This is a common phase at this early stage. 98% think about just calling it a day & heading to home at one time or another. They are exhausted, hungry & homesick. They might feel like they can't keep up with daily routine or living with other KPers who have little to no sympathy. This stage is to knock them down before they build them back up. Go back & re-read the Dobbs letter if need be. Let it motivate you to help motivate them. Beg them to tough it out until Parent's Weekend. you might get surprised how the tide changes so quickly.
     
  10. shutterbugC

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    Everytime I ask my DS if he likes it there, he is in the middle. Doesn't love it and doesn't hate it. When I asked him the first time we got to talk to him, he said it will be best at the end. So, that tells me that he is not looking short term but long term which is good.
     
  11. mgt

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    It takes a very special individual to attend a Service Academy. Almost all of our DS's and DD's have never experienced anything like this before. They are miles outside of their comfort zone and are learning things about themselves that without this experience would never learn. They have doubts because they are venturing into the unknown but at some point the lights will come on and they start to welcome the challenge. Plebe Canidate parents you will be amazed at the confidence your child will have on Parent's Weekend. The complaining won't stop, the roller coast ride will continue but seeing what they have become in the first 2 months makes it a bit easier for you going forward. I am looking forward to where the ride will take my DS and I think in someways he is as well.

    As I have told my son many times - "A Servive Academy is not a place you want to be but rather a place you want to be from"

    Buckle up and enjoy the ride
     
  12. shutterbugC

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    As I have told my son many times - "A Service Academy is not a place you want to be but rather a place you want to be from"


    I enjoyed your quote. I believe my son has that same thought in his head.
    Thanks
     
  13. Sea Faring Moose Mom

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    Alumni Saying

    I have heard this from Alumni and Mids alike:


    Kings Point is a 'hell of a place' to be, and a 'hell of a place to be from.


    :cool:
     
  14. kpmom2011

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    From a plebe candidate

    I wanted to share this email that one of our mom's received from her plebe candidate. I think this student is wise beyond years and thank the parent for allowing me to post. If you want encouragement for a reason to stay read this and share with anyone thinking of leaving!

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    FROM: PLEBE CANDIDATE CLASS OF 2014 TO HOME (8/9/2010):

    Tonight i was hit with something. It is movie night and the chosen movie was The Guardian. I don't know if you remember but we watched this years ago. It stars Ashton Kutcher and he goes to this school to become a rescue swimmer for the coast guard. Then we found it amusing, I couldn't believe anyone would want to go through that. By the end I was awed.

    Now years later I saw it through a different perspective.

    When the school's drill instructors started yelling at them we all laughed because we went and are still going through that stage. There was envy that they could go off campus and be normal.

    For me I understood the drive and the will to succeed that the characters were portraying. Just like here not everyone is going to make it. But those that continue to push and refuse to give up, those people fill me with pride.

    As the movie came to a close seeing what you can be when you succeed was fortifying. This life isn't for everyone and there will be days every single one of us will wonder what the heck am I doing here. Some people are here for the money, the cheap education, wanting to travel; others will dedicate their lives to active duty and serve their country, and still more will go into a chosen field as merchant mariners.

    I walked out of that movie with tears in my eyes. Not because i was sad or happy but filled with pride for what we have and will accomplish. The day we graduate will be one of the best days and not only because we are done with school, but because we have done something that many would have failed at, that some turn their noses up looking at us as insignificant. What those people don't realize is we, and I include the other service academies in this, are a big part of the backbone that forms the U.S even though we are the minority. But everyday we change lives and make a difference.

    I can't thank you enough for your support in getting here. I can't thank you enough for the love you've given me that has allowed me to make it this far. Thank you for the lessons you taught me that have allowed me to succeed and thank you for giving me all the opportunities that have made me who I am. I know there were times I probably didn't seem to appreciate you guys but you have made all the difference in my life. You have always believed in me even when I doubted myself while encouraging me to do better. I am so proud to be your child. Everyone that has encouraged and loved me have changed my life and i thank god for the circumstances that led me here.

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    Amazing and wise words from a PC Class of 2014.:thumb:
     
  15. shutterbugC

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    Thank you so much for sharing the letter. It really touched my heart in that I know this is what I believe my DS thinks and would say if he WOULD ONLY WRITE!!!! LOL.
    This is a letter that should be cherished for a lifetime. I know I would.
     
  16. rkrosnar

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    KP2011

    Thanks for posting the letter. Stories like these just continue to show why the SA's continue to be the best and brightest in our great and wonderful country. They are the most important minority we have.



    GOD BLESS THEM ALL EACH AND EVERYONE OF THEM.


    RGK
     
  17. KP2013dramamama

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    Awesome and inspiring. Thanks for sharing!
     

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