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AcademyHopefulCO25

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Hello everybody! I just recently received an LOA to USNA. Everything is checked off on my portal, so I know my appointment is coming. I was just wondering if anybody could offer their timeline as to how long it took for you to receive your "official appointment" after all conditions of your LOA were completed? Thanks!
 
AcademyHopefulCO25 said:
Hello everybody! I just recently received an LOA to USNA. Everything is checked off on my portal, so I know my appointment is coming. I was just wondering if anybody could offer their timeline as to how long it took for you to receive your "official appointment" after all conditions of your LOA were completed? Thanks!
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Congratulations! My DS received an updated (and confusing) LOA with everything cleared out. Two days later he got the call from congressman. After another week, he got the appointment shown in his portal. Very painful waiting in those days...
 
AcademyHopefulCO25 said:
Hello everybody! I just recently received an LOA to USNA. Everything is checked off on my portal, so I know my appointment is coming. I was just wondering if anybody could offer their timeline as to how long it took for you to receive your "official appointment" after all conditions of your LOA were completed? Thanks!
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They are still giving out LOAs? even now? Congrats!!
 
AcademyHopefulCO25 said:
Hello everybody! I just recently received an LOA to USNA. Everything is checked off on my portal, so I know my appointment is coming. I was just wondering if anybody could offer their timeline as to how long it took for you to receive your "official appointment" after all conditions of your LOA were completed? Thanks!
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Congrats. I assume you had a check mark missing until recently? Seems illogical to send an LOA if you were already completely checked off.
 
Labishop said:
Congrats! I am surprised at this point that they are giving LOAs. I would have assumed at this point it would be an appointment since we are getting closer to the deadline!
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I guess the LOAs fall in line with the post Jan 1, 2021 policy of only sending candidates that are likely to get an appointment to DoDMERB for medical Q. My DS was one of those, rcvd an LOA a few weeks ago, then was sent to DoDMERB, and is now patiently waiting...
 
QUESTION OF THE DAY⏰

I have an LOA, so I was hoping somebody could answer this question for me:

Before you got your LOA, the place where would see it, it would read something like "Congratulations! Your application is under review". Then, some time later, you see the gold envelope and the LOA letter appear. Well today my LOA letter and gold envelope disappeared and the box where it was found went back to reading, "Congratulations! Your application is under review". I was just wondering if this happened to you as well, and then how much longer after that happened did it take for you receive your appointment. As you can imagine I am very anxious, so I am hoping you could put my mind at ease because you might've had the same thing happen to you. Thanks!
 
Did you pass the conditions of the LOA - ie medically qualified with a nom? If so I wouldn’t worry about this stuff.
 
AcademyHopefulCO25 said:
QUESTION OF THE DAY⏰

I have an LOA, so I was hoping somebody could answer this question for me:

Before you got your LOA, the place where would see it, it would read something like "Congratulations! Your application is under review". Then, some time later, you see the gold envelope and the LOA letter appear. Well today my LOA letter and gold envelope disappeared and the box where it was found went back to reading, "Congratulations! Your application is under review". I was just wondering if this happened to you as well, and then how much longer after that happened did it take for you receive your appointment. As you can imagine I am very anxious, so I am hoping you could put my mind at ease because you might've had the same thing happen to you. Thanks!
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If everything is completed and passed no need to worry. I had the same thing happen to me. The appointment message showed up for me about a week and a half after the LOA was replaced with that message.
 
knightridar2 said:
They are still giving out LOAs? even now?
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This is a good example of how LOAs are elusive and mysterious things — as often repeated on SAF. We tend to fixate on them and try hard to decipher them, but in the end, the SAs have their own rhyme and reason. DD received an LOA a couple of days before the national decision day of May 1. So yes, they can come at any time.
 
MidCakePa said:
This is a good example of how LOAs are elusive and mysterious things — as often repeated on SAF. We tend to fixate on them and try hard to decipher them, but in the end, the SAs have their own rhyme and reason. DD received an LOA a couple of days before the national decision day of May 1. So yes, they can come at any time.
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LOA's remain a mystery to me. Therefore (disclaimer) everything I'm about to say is pure speculation.

Question:
Why don't more candidates who have multiple offers of appointment have more than one LOA?

I understand that there may be candidates with multiple LOA's but only one reported offer of appointment, so their LOA data is somewhat hidden. But if a candidate is attractive enough to an SA to receive an LOA, why aren't they attractive enough to receive LOA's from the other SA's? I would have thought that the candidates with multiple offers of appointment would also have multiple LOAs. But they don't:

Data:
If we only look at the 3 SAs that give out LOA's (USAFA, USMA & USNA) as reported on SAF today for C2025:
- There are 369 total offers of appointment
- Out of the 369, there are 34 candidates reporting 2 or more offers of appointment to the three mentioned SA's
- Out of the 34, there are 15 candidates reporting an LOA to at least one SA (44%)
- Out of the 34, there are only 2 with an LOA at two SA's (6%) <- mystery to me

Theories:
- I wonder if the candidates with LOA's are being specifically recruited to just that SA. For example an athlete who has worked with a specific coach at a specific SA.
- I wonder if LOA's are dependent upon 1st/2nd choices (probably not)
- I wonder if SA's somehow coordinate to not double up LOA's for a particular candidate (I also doubt this happens)
- I wonder if the desired skills/credentials of the SA's vary enough to differentiate the candidates (c'mon.. no way)
- I wonder if there are so many variables in the interviews, applications and reviewing of those applications that LOA's get distributed with only a 6% overlap...
 
Supersix00 said:
LOA's remain a mystery to me. Therefore (disclaimer) everything I'm about to say is pure speculation.

Question:
Why don't more candidates who have multiple offers of appointment have more than one LOA?

I understand that there may be candidates with multiple LOA's but only one reported offer of appointment, so their LOA data is somewhat hidden. But if a candidate is attractive enough to an SA to receive an LOA, why aren't they attractive enough to receive LOA's from the other SA's? I would have thought that the candidates with multiple offers of appointment would also have multiple LOAs. But they don't:

Data:
If we only look at the 3 SAs that give out LOA's (USAFA, USMA & USNA) as reported on SAF today for C2025:
- There are 369 total offers of appointment
- Out of the 369, there are 34 candidates reporting 2 or more offers of appointment to the three mentioned SA's
- Out of the 34, there are 15 candidates reporting an LOA to at least one SA (44%)
- Out of the 34, there are only 2 with an LOA at two SA's (6%) <- mystery to me

Theories:
- I wonder if the candidates with LOA's are being specifically recruited to just that SA. For example an athlete who has worked with a specific coach at a specific SA.
- I wonder if LOA's are dependent upon 1st/2nd choices (probably not)
- I wonder if SA's somehow coordinate to not double up LOA's for a particular candidate (I also doubt this happens)
- I wonder if the desired skills/credentials of the SA's vary enough to differentiate the candidates (c'mon.. no way)
- I wonder if there are so many variables in the interviews, applications and reviewing of those applications that LOA's get distributed with only a 6% overlap...
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I think your trying to find analysis out of partial information reported here on SAF which may or may not represent the complete picture.

My son got one LOA in 2019 and only applied to one SA. We don’t know if he would have gotten another if he applied to another academy.

Each SA has their own criteria and reasons for giving them.
 
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AcademyHopefulCO25 said:
QUESTION OF THE DAY⏰

I have an LOA, so I was hoping somebody could answer this question for me:

Before you got your LOA, the place where would see it, it would read something like "Congratulations! Your application is under review". Then, some time later, you see the gold envelope and the LOA letter appear. Well today my LOA letter and gold envelope disappeared and the box where it was found went back to reading, "Congratulations! Your application is under review". I was just wondering if this happened to you as well, and then how much longer after that happened did it take for you receive your appointment. As you can imagine I am very anxious, so I am hoping you could put my mind at ease because you might've had the same thing happen to you. Thanks!
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Same thing happened to me. My offer of appointment came about 5 days later.
 
Supersix00 said:
I wonder if the desired skills/credentials of the SA's vary enough to differ
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Yes. Three different branches, three different missions, three sets of criteria.

Supersix00 said:
I wonder if there are so many variables in the interviews, applications and reviewing of those applications that LOA's get distributed with only a 6% overlap.
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Yes to the first part. The second part is based on “analysis” of a small and biased sample size.

A1Janitor said:
I think your trying to find analysis out of partial information reported here on SAF which may or may not represent the complete picture.
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Absolutely yes!

The Army, Navy and Air Force have their own reasons and methods for doing things. They look for some similar traits and characteristics, to be sure. But we also can’t assume that a single candidate “presents” exactly the same way to each SA.

Bottom line is this: No one should feel entitled to an LOA from one just because they got an LOA from another. The SAs probably have much better things to do than to coordinate LOAs with each other. They care a lot about LOAs. But my guess is nowhere near as much as people on SAF do.
 
AcademyHopefulCO25 said:
QUESTION OF THE DAY⏰

I have an LOA, so I was hoping somebody could answer this question for me:

Before you got your LOA, the place where would see it, it would read something like "Congratulations! Your application is under review". Then, some time later, you see the gold envelope and the LOA letter appear. Well today my LOA letter and gold envelope disappeared and the box where it was found went back to reading, "Congratulations! Your application is under review". I was just wondering if this happened to you as well, and then how much longer after that happened did it take for you receive your appointment. As you can imagine I am very anxious, so I am hoping you could put my mind at ease because you might've had the same thing happen to you. Thanks!
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Yes my DD had the same thing happen. The appointment came a few days later.
 
Supersix00 said:
LOA's remain a mystery to me. Therefore (disclaimer) everything I'm about to say is pure speculation.

Question:
Why don't more candidates who have multiple offers of appointment have more than one LOA?

I understand that there may be candidates with multiple LOA's but only one reported offer of appointment, so their LOA data is somewhat hidden. But if a candidate is attractive enough to an SA to receive an LOA, why aren't they attractive enough to receive LOA's from the other SA's? I would have thought that the candidates with multiple offers of appointment would also have multiple LOAs. But they don't:

Data:
If we only look at the 3 SAs that give out LOA's (USAFA, USMA & USNA) as reported on SAF today for C2025:
- There are 369 total offers of appointment
- Out of the 369, there are 34 candidates reporting 2 or more offers of appointment to the three mentioned SA's
- Out of the 34, there are 15 candidates reporting an LOA to at least one SA (44%)
- Out of the 34, there are only 2 with an LOA at two SA's (6%) <- mystery to me

Theories:
- I wonder if the candidates with LOA's are being specifically recruited to just that SA. For example an athlete who has worked with a specific coach at a specific SA.
- I wonder if LOA's are dependent upon 1st/2nd choices (probably not)
- I wonder if SA's somehow coordinate to not double up LOA's for a particular candidate (I also doubt this happens)
- I wonder if the desired skills/credentials of the SA's vary enough to differentiate the candidates (c'mon.. no way)
- I wonder if there are so many variables in the interviews, applications and reviewing of those applications that LOA's get distributed with only a 6% overlap...
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You also have to factor in that the applications are different from one another and candidates might be more effort towards one over the other. For example, the activities section for USAFA and USNA this year were completely different and I did not portray myself as well as I wanted too and so when entering activities on my USNA app, I did a much better job of painting the whole picture of myself. I would say with the essays and activities between both of my apps, my USAFA one pales in comparison to my USNA because of the format and also because I was more motivated to doing a better job on my USNA app which I ended up receiving a LOA and appointment for and have yet to hear back from USAFA.
 
I just got a LOA too! I'm really thrilled about it, especially since I never expected one this late. Other than that, all I'm waiting on now is a medical waiver. Is it likely that receiving a medical waiver is held to the "deadline" of April 15th ("deadline" because admissions just said most would be notified by then). Or is it that candidates still waiting on a waiver are those who would still be waiting for a decision?
 
Your waiver review could certainly go past April 15th.
 
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