Missing Navy Seals

Kierkegaard said:
I was wondering the same thing, but I have to assume that being these guys are the best of the best, they did everything they possibly could have given the constraints of their mission. Of course, we’ll never know all the details.
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Maybe, so but if Special Warfare Operator 2nd Class Nathan G. Ingram or Special Warfare Operator 1st Class Christopher J. Chambers were my son, nothing would stop me from trying to learn the details.

I'd go to Pat Tillman's family for advice about how to go about it.
 
severn said:
... 😧 crazy and my mind is racing. Perhaps this is similar to the four SEALS lost at sea (drown) and their bodies never recovered during the U.S. Invasion of Grenada. Night Ship Boarding ops is the most harrowing and risky operation... anything can go wrong, ocean pitch, missteps, lost grips, limited visibility, slippery ladder. Getting through to that thin cable ladder is like fast roping in reverse-extreme slow motion. Instead of worrying of that former 250 lbs former Navy linebacker following you during a fast rope, now your looking up at the same linebacker hoping he wouldn't slip... can be disastrous like a domino effect.

Update from ABC News: One Seal dove into the ocean in an attempt to rescue a fellow SEAL. With all that battle rattle in pitch black night during high waves... harrowing. Both are MIAs.
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... so I checked the ocean data in
Qulansiyah Sea, the ocean temperature was 25.8 Celsius (78.44 F) today with January average of 25.7 C (78.26 F); min 24.8 C (76.64 F). At first glance, it would appear normal, tropical weather and requires a very thin summer wetsuit. But given that it was a night ops, the temperature could have dropped -10 C due to offshore winds, wave anomalies, wind chill, and heavy rain. Most likely they were wearing a 2mm-3mm neoprene wetsuit, enough to stay warm for 4-5 hours. Anything less is futile.
 
... News Update: Politico. Eyewitness Account.

... so basically they just sunk like rocks with all that Full Battle Rattle, no wetsuit... pitch black night, high waves. Having flashbacks on
Day 1 of SFQC mid '80s: Conducted APFT, 12-mile ruck march 60 lbs under 3 hours, and 100 meters swim in combat gear.

www.politico.com

How a Navy SEAL fell into rough waters and another died trying to save him

The two SEALs plunged into the depths of the Arabian Sea.
www.politico.com www.politico.com
 
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Jeez..... thoughts and prayers for sure. My boyfriend is going SEALs and seeing things like this remind me of the reality that it is....

prayers for the families
 
Kierkegaard said:
This was posted elsewhere by the military commentator BravoKilo. Says he got it from a credible source. Don’t take it as gospel, but it sounds reasonable to me…

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That is heartbreaking 💔. Also that the mission was still successfully carried out by their mates.
Lives were lost. And lives were saved by the successful seizure.
 
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I’m just sad. One of my former students qualified for ‘special boats’ and is part of West coast teams taking those who need to go somewhere where they need to go.
My heart breaks for the loss of life. Always.
 
Kierkegaard said:
This was posted elsewhere by the military commentator BravoKilo. Says he got it from a credible source. Don’t take it as gospel, but it sounds reasonable to me…

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My heart aches for these guys. With that being said, as somebody who has multiple friends and neighbors in the special warfare community (my neighborhood is so close to Dam Neck that I can hear morning and evening colors) I have never understood the need to be "Superman". I acknowledge the need to be at the tip of the spear, but so many operators have died for stupid reasons, and the community never seems to learn from these lessons. The narrative in the above post seems to be making the rounds (in some form or another) in the community.
 
USMC Crayons said:
My heart aches for these guys. With that being said, as somebody who has multiple friends and neighbors in the special warfare community (my neighborhood is so close to Dam Neck that I can hear morning and evening colors) I have never understood the need to be "Superman". I acknowledge the need to be at the tip of the spear, but so many operators have died for stupid reasons, and the community never seems to learn from these lessons. The narrative in the above post seems to be making the rounds (in some form or another) in the community.
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I don't presume to know or even care to know the details. I trust the after action inquiry will be thorough.

I do, however, absolutely understand it. Popular culture--movies, video games, "So There I Was" autobiographies, fawning cable news hosts--practically calls them "Supermen", while ignoring the men and women, no less courageous, who exercise superhuman feats of patience, forbearance and discretion. It is my impression that the SOF qualification and training process do a good job of weeding out the next Leeroy Jenkins. They can scuttle a mission or worse with their attitude.
 
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