NAPS 2024 Waitlist

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NavyHoops said:
Please do not follow this guidance. Please talk with your admissions rep and your BGO/AC for guidance that comes directly from admissions. Yes, retake the ACT/SAT, if recommended (in most cases it is), if ROTC is available, it’s a good option.
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How would you suggest getting a response? Email and even on campus has been futile/silence.
 
blhenrywalpole said:
Of course the academy knows there will be attrition. They know, with pretty good accuracy, what percentage that will be. Again, that is a moot point.

Here again is the point using your example. Those 10 who quit, took the spots from candidates 101-110 when they accepted their appointments. Candidates 101-110 would have been "next up" and offered appointments if 10 from the 100 just declined their appointments to begin with. Instead, they accepted it, then quit, thereby denying candidates 101-110 the ability to receive appointments.

This isn't rocket surgery. Those quitters took spots from someone else.
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I cannot comprehend why anyone would disagree with this. Maybe it’s just a sign of my age.
 
blhenrywalpole said:
Sure they did. If they accepted an appointment, only to quit, then they took a spot from someone who otherwise would not have quit.

On the FB page, it looks like a few more are planning on quitting as well. Really sad to see. Another gut punch to those who truly wanted it, only to have their opportunity given to someone who simply threw it away and quit.
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I have been following and reading all the comments on the NAPS FB discussion today after their first calls. Responses of the M/Cs ranged from "Great!" to "I wanna go home, please!" And everything in between. From what I have read on this forum and from a multitude of books on the USNA the responses were within the norms. I did not read of anyone saying their DS/DD was quitting. Past statistics say 20% of NAPS inductees will not make it to the next USNA I-day. Of that group, half will DOR and the other half will not be appointed for either poor academic performance and/or disobeying the rules. I'm sure the USNA bakes those statistics into their appointments.
 
Alchemist said:
I have been following and reading all the comments on the NAPS FB discussion today after their first calls. Responses of the M/Cs ranged from "Great!" to "I wanna go home, please!" And everything in between. From what I have read on this forum and from a multitude of books on the USNA the responses were within the norms. I did not read of anyone saying their DS/DD was quitting. Past statistics say 20% of NAPS inductees will not make it to the next USNA I-day. Of that group, half will DOR and the other half will not be appointed for either poor academic performance and/or disobeying the rules. I'm sure the USNA bakes those statistics into their appointments.
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I guess you missed this post on FB: "Not the call I was expecting. My daughter wants to quit. I hope she’s getting support and she said she was talking to a counselor. She’s really homesick."

There are a few more similar to that one as well.

Anyway, two are quitting tomorrow and one quit on day 1. Ask your kid on the next call if you don't believe me.

Again, these quitters took spots from candidates who actually wanted to be there.
 
Every year kids quit naps. Even priors with a CAR at times quit NAPS. Both graduating and quitting are part of the process. Both are needed.

A system where everyone passes and no one ever quits is a soft silly system indeed.

And every year there are those who don’t get in who complain about the system and how unfair it is and complain about those that do get in. Every year is pretty much like the many years before And will be just like the years to come.
 
Small Team Bacsi said:
Every year kids quit naps. Even priors with a CAR at times quit NAPS. Both graduating and quitting are part of the process. Both are needed.

A system where everyone passes and no one ever quits is a soft silly system indeed.

And every year there are those who don’t get in who complain about the system and how unfair it is and complain about those that do get in. Every year is pretty much like the many years before And will be just like the years to come.
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Yes, of course. The point again is these quitters took spots from kids who truly wanted to be there.

If they didn't know what they were signing up for and or didn't have the intestinal fortitude to persevere through a little adversity, they should not have accepted their appointments and taken an oath. Instead, they should've declined their appointment, thereby giving their spot to the next one up.
 
blhenrywalpole said:
Instead, they should've declined their appointment, thereby giving their spot to the next one up.
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That's the whole thing... if each year nobody dropped out, then they would offer 20% less spots initially and the "next one up" would never be offered a spot anyways.
 
blhenrywalpole said:
Yes, of course. The point again is these quitters took spots from kids who truly wanted to be there.

If they didn't know what they were signing up for and or didn't have the intestinal fortitude to persevere through a little adversity, they should not have accepted their appointments and taken an oath. Instead, they should've declined their appointment, thereby giving their spot to the next one up.
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Will these “kids” have to meet their obligations to
The Navy Reserve ?
 
billyb said:
That's the whole thing... if each year nobody dropped out, then they would offer 20% less spots initially and the "next one up" would never be offered a spot anyways.
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So they purposely appoint young men and women whose purpose is to quit? That’s warped man.
 
blhenrywalpole said:
Yes, of course. The point again is these quitters took spots from kids who truly wanted to be there.

If they didn't know what they were signing up for and or didn't have the intestinal fortitude to persevere through a little adversity, they should not have accepted their appointments and taken an oath. Instead, they should've declined their appointment, thereby giving their spot to the next one up.
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With respect.... How can you be certain the "next one up" would not have reacted exactly the same and quit themselves.
 
billyb said:
That's the whole thing... if each year nobody dropped out, then they would offer 20% less spots initially and the "next one up" would never be offered a spot anyways.
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I think you guys are missing the point. Again, of course the Academy knows there will be attrition. It's baked into the cake.

My gripe is with the kids themselves who accept the appointment, only to quit. If their heart wasn't in it, came in fat and out of shape, couldn't handle a little adversity, etc., then they should not have accepted the appointment and taken the oath to begin with. Doing so costs someone else the opportunity. These quitters took spots from someone who truly wanted to be there.
 
blhenrywalpole said:
I guess you missed this post on FB: "Not the call I was expecting. My daughter wants to quit. I hope she’s getting support and she said she was talking to a counselor. She’s really homesick."

There are a few more similar to that one as well.

Anyway, two are quitting tomorrow and one quit on day 1. Ask your kid on the next call if you don't believe me.
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Do you have a child at NAPS this summer?
 
blhenrywalpole said:
No, they are free to leave with no obligation. It costs them nothing but costs the kid whose spot they took a lot.
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Imagine how the kids who were deemed fully qualified, put on the USNA waitlist, twe, and deemed unqualified for naps feel.

A parent complaining about another kid taking a spot that could have been used for someone else, who was missing something in their resume for USNA, to naps.

It is a complete waste of time. I hope the parents aren’t discussing this with their kids. Instead, I hope they are focusing on what is needed to get over the hurdle.
 
BayouDad said:
With respect.... How can you be certain the "next one up" would not have reacted exactly the same and quit themselves.
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No one can be certain of that.

But I think kids who quit the first week in clearly were not all in for what they accepted and took an oath.
 
Kentucky9 said:
Yep…a student loan….time….and a lot more distractors! A lot more distractors!
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Not to mention the stress, heartache, wondering what they don't have that others do, etc.

Meanwhile some kid accepts the appointment, takes an oath, shows up fat and out of shape, doesn't like the running, marching, getting yelled at, the quality of the food, being homesick, making their bed three times a day, etc. and then just quits after less than a week.
 
blhenrywalpole said:
Not to mention the stress, heartache, wondering what they don't have that others do, etc.

Meanwhile some kid accepts the appointment, takes an oath, shows up fat and out of shape, doesn't like the running, marching, getting yelled at, the quality of the food, being homesick, making their bed three times a day, etc. and then just quits after less than a week.
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I’d put good money that none of the “quitters” spent more than 3 days in a wrestling room!
 
blhenrywalpole said:
Meanwhile some kid accepts the appointment, takes an oath, shows up fat and out of shape, doesn't like the running, marching, getting yelled at, the quality of the food, being homesick, making their bed three times a day, etc. and then just quits after less than a week.
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Patently absurd to write this on a public forum.
blhenrywalpole said:
Not to mention the stress, heartache, wondering what they don't have that others do, etc.
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A phone call to admissions and BGO would end the confusion. And the applicant should address the shortcomings with vigor if they want to reapply.
 
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