Navy aircraft crash

Wow.. a successful bailout of a E2C ....has it been done before ? I think I read that E2 crew's strap into chutes on every flight. In P3's they were strapped behind each crew position, and we did bailout drills regularly, but I don't recall hearing of anyone actually doing it.
 
We really need to replace a lot of planes.

A quote from someone I know: “Every day I get into the equivalent of a 40-year-old sports car with 850,000 miles on it. It’s been through 11 engines, 200 sets of tires, and 6 paint jobs. I don’t take it out for a leisurely drive, either, I take it to it’s limits every day and drive it like I’m in the Cannonball Run. And, I need to expect it to work perfectly every time because if it doesn’t, it can be catastrophic.”

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Wow.. a successful bailout of a E2C ....has it been done before ? I think I read that E2 crew's strap into chutes on every flight. In P3's they were strapped behind each crew position, and we did bailout drills regularly, but I don't recall hearing of anyone actually doing it.
Funny, I was thinking the same thing. When I saw that it was an E-2 that crash my first thought was “This will be bad.”
 
Aircraft, if well maintained and depending on the type of use can last a long, long time.
Airframes pulling high Gs on a regular basis may have issues. Something such as an E-2 or P-3 I can see lasting much longer.
I once helped with a conditional inspection on a Blériot XI. It is still flying. I flew UH-1s built in the early 60s. Taught in a 1947 Cessna 140 and a 1939 J-3.
 
I have gone on record before that UH-1s scare me to death. Good on you for flying them and still being alive to talk about it, @UHBlackhawk. ;)
 
Glad to hear they are OK. We really need to replace a lot of planes.
I, too, am glad this had good ending. Helicopters also need to be replaced. The Bell TH57 B/C Sea Ranger is still flying. It’s amazing that the Student Naval Aviators flying the Sea Ranger today weren’t yet born when I flew it as an instructor in the 80’s. That will change in the next couple of years as the Navy introduces the TH-73A helicopter as the new training helicopter. Here’s what it looks like:Navy Training Helicopter.jpg. The main difference from the current trainer will be 4 main rotor blades and a glass instrument panel.
 
That's pretty swoopy looking. :)
 
I, too, am glad this had good ending. Helicopters also need to be replaced. The Bell TH57 B/C Sea Ranger is still flying. It’s amazing that the Student Naval Aviators flying the Sea Ranger today weren’t yet born when I flew it as an instructor in the 80’s. That will change in the next couple of years as the Navy introduces the TH-73A helicopter as the new training helicopter. Here’s what it looks like:View attachment 6834. The main difference from the current trainer will be 4 main rotor blades and a glass instrument panel.
The Navy has been much smarter in the approach to RW training aircraft than the Army. When I went through it was the TH-55 (Schweizer/Hughes 296). It was a very forgiving trainer and cheap to operate... but they wanted a turbine. So they went to the UH-1. A great airframe, but not a great trainer. So instead of getting with the Navy and getting a joint trainer, the Army went off on its own and got... the TH-67. But recently, to save money they have now switched to the UH-72 Lakota. Apparently, it's so unforgiving that students aren't permitted to land until they have 20 hours. The -72 is the only one I haven't flown (okay, I didn't fly the TH-67 but the OH-58), but I have heard nothing good about it as a trainer. What goat roap.
 
The Navy has been much smarter in the approach to RW training aircraft than the Army. When I went through it was the TH-55 (Schweizer/Hughes 296). It was a very forgiving trainer and cheap to operate... but they wanted a turbine. So they went to the UH-1. A great airframe, but not a great trainer. So instead of getting with the Navy and getting a joint trainer, the Army went off on its own and got... the TH-67. But recently, to save money they have now switched to the UH-72 Lakota. Apparently, it's so unforgiving that students aren't permitted to land until they have 20 hours. The -72 is the only one I haven't flown (okay, I didn't fly the TH-67 but the OH-58), but I have heard nothing good about it as a trainer. What goat roap.

I will not argue that it’s a good trainer. It’s not in the slightest and the Army let itself get ripped off on many different fronts adopting the Lakota for flight school, but unless things have changed in the POI, and because it also hits a nerve when I hear the “72 students never land aircraft“ I will throw out there that when I was in the course, we were landing aircraft at 0 hours in a 72. The limitation they had for us was we didn’t do run on landings until later in the course, but they also introduced OGE fly always from day one that led us to doing OGE hover work way earlier than any of our 67 brethren and we ended up with NVG time to finish out the aircraft qual in BWS that the 58s didn’t do which was nice to have when I moved to my advanced airframe.

Also, most of the issues with the mast moment exceedances actually came from IPs who were used to way more movement in the cyclic with articulated/semi-articulated rotor systems /rant
 
That's pretty swoopy looking. :)
More helo replacements. The Marine Corps accepted this beast last year. It is in the test and evaluation phase now. The new “sh**ers” should make their first operational deployment in the ’23-’24 timeframe. Not sure how transitioning Marine CH-53E pilots will take to not having the jettisonable auxiliary fuel tanks port and starboard. I hope the “K” rollout is smoother than the initial CH-53E rollout in the early 80’s. The CH-53E is a Cadillac to fly when everything is synced up. Here it is: ch53K.jpg
 
The only ones I have been in leaked like a sieve. ;)Worse than a Harley on the showroom floor.
 
The Huey is a good aircraft. Maintenance is getting harder, and the avionics can be iffy, but the spinning parts spin pretty reliably.
I’m surprised the Marines never went with the -60 like all the other services. It’s a much better airframe for combat.
 
The only ones I have been in leaked like a sieve. ;)Worse than a Harley on the showroom floor.
Leaks were part of the pre-flight inspection. They were assurances that at least the helicopter had some hydraulic fluid and fuel in the lines. A nice puddle meant the plane captain did their job.:rolleyes: We'd always carry rags in the helo. Hated it when a VIP got a hydraulic fluid or oil smudges on their uniform or attire. I'd settle for a couple of smudges sitting on an Electra Glide though.

Sea story: I transported Loretta Lynn from Clark AFB to Cubi Point. The Skipper told us to be very careful as the Coal Miners Daughter had earlier slipped (hydraulic fluid?) and fallen on a military helicopter during her USO tour in Korea. He didn't want a repeat. We got her back in time for her show at Subic Bay .
 
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