Newest Forbes Rankings

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  1. scoutpilot

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    The Forbes ranking is pretty skewed; Their system places a precedence on cost (almost $0 for USMA students) and post graduate employment (nearly 100% for USMA graduates). No other school (outside of the other academies) can compete with that.
     
  3. DHinNH

    DHinNH USMA 1989

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    All college rankings are skewed. What is important is knowing how they are skewed.
     
  4. kinnem

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    Another year, same old discussion. I wouldn't call it skewed... it's what they measure. Other rankings measure other things. Regardless, the Academies always come out near the top.
     
  5. USMCGrunt

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    I would like to point out that in the private Roman Catholic Universities with Division 1 football teams located in Indiana rankings, Notre Dame is #1 yet they are #24 in this obviously skewed Forbes survey.
     
  6. scoutpilot

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    And yet, while enjoying those same 2 advantages, Navy and USAFA are more than 20 spots behind USMA. Hmmm...
     
  7. LineInTheSand

    LineInTheSand USCGA 2006

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    I still haven't figured out how CGA is behind VMI. Maybe I'm putting too much focus on acceptance rates and average scores....

    But then I see a number of other schools that are... suspect too. I think we tackled the Forbes list last year too.
     
  8. DHinNH

    DHinNH USMA 1989

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    And USMA is behind schools which enjoy neither of those advantages as well.

    In fact, the rankings are dominated by private schools, which generally cost more than public schools. The highest ranked non-academy public schools are certainly not the most affordable either.
     
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    I'm glad to see that getting rid of most of the military training during the academic year has continued to pay off with that #1 ranking... because that's what's important, right?
     
  10. usnabgo08

    usnabgo08 USNA 2008/BGO

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    Who really cares? Even when the Princeton Review does their rankings, normally all the SA's are within a few ticks of each other, which really means there is little difference. I have no problem letting USMA take the spotlight in this poll, I think it is the first time, in a long time, they have been first in something compared to all the other SAs. :wink:
     
  11. falconfamily

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    The biggest weighting factor in the survey is post graduate success (35%), I think USMA would be well ahead here with regard to senior leadership at the Pentagon and the sheer number of senior officers in the Army versus the Navy and Air Force. The second highest weighting factor is Student Satisfaction (25%) - pretty sure this data can vary quite a bit depending on the time of year at the SA's (i.e. Dec of C4 year would be pretty low).
     
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    It just doesn't matter. We all know that the air force is the best. The only reason West Point is ranked higher than Air Force and Navy, is because Army cadets have lower expectations. :yllol:
    LOL!!!

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  13. scoutpilot

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    You mean besides Rhodes Scholars, Marshall Scholars, Truman Scholars, East-West Scholars, Hertz fellows, Presidents, Fortune 500 CEOs, walking on the moon, heads of state...

    Oh, but hey, you guys win at football. Pat yourselves on the back! :wink:
     
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    The weighted ratings are based upon two websites, payscale.com and ratemyprofessor.com.
    I would argue that payscale.com does track the number of senior leaders in the pentagon but rather the information of individuals willing to go on the website and post whatever information that they see fit.
    Also ratemyprofessor.com could be said is not very scientific for finding out overall student satisfaction. It is highly subjective and open to tampering. Anyone on the Internet can log onto ratemyprofessor.com and post anything about any professor without even having attended the school. Also ratemyprofessor.com does not have ratings for every teacher at the listed schools but a select few who students wish to rate.
     
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    LineInTheSand USCGA 2006

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    I can think of a few ex-Enron traders that hail from West Point!

    :wink:
     
  16. falconfamily

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    Good points TC, I just thought that those two measures which accounted for 60% of the weighted scoring on the Forbes list should be pointed out.
     
  17. scoutpilot

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    See?! We're good at EVERYTHING! :thumb:
     
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    At least our football team hasn't sexually assaulted anyone lately
     
  19. falconfamily

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    How did we get here? This topic is just not funny. Really....
     
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