Number of appointments for enlisted from fleet

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  1. NavyFleetMom

    NavyFleetMom Member

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    Does anyone know how many spots are available this year from prior enlisted direct appointment to USNA?? and spots for prior enlisted to NAPS?? I recall from 2012 and 2013 it was 175 to USNA. I just read a letter on this forum regarding procedures for NAPS and prior enlisted I day procedures from last year that said between 250 and 300 would be there from both groups??
     
  2. activedutymom

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    The USNA class of 2018 had 10 Navy direct and 1 USMC direct plus 47 Navy and 9 USMC from NAPS. The current NAPS class started with 40 Navy and 6 Marines. As far as I've heard they are all still there. The Naps class started with 252 total but I know a few have dropped. Be interesting to see how many directs will be in the class of 2019. Seems like they are decreasing the enlisted. Wonder if that is due to reduced class sizes.


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  3. cas

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    Good Morning NavyFleetMom - I read that the Academy can take up to 170 Enlisted. Usually more Navy than Marines. Not sure if they have filled all slots due to qualified applicants or just not enough enlisted applying. It's a good questions to ask. Fingers are crossed for you DS. Hope to meet you both on I DAY.
     
  4. usnabgo08

    usnabgo08 USNA 2008/BGO

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    cas, that isn't exactly true. USNA can accept as many enlisted that have a nomination. The SECNAV can nominate 85 Regular and an additional 85 Reserve USN/USMC personnel. Because NAPSTERs have to join the Reserves, normally all of those 85 will go to NAPSTERS (minus the enlisted that are on active duty/regular). There were 67 prior enlisted that entered USNA (including those from NAPS) and all of those likely were active duty/regular. Presuming that all 85 SECNAV nominations were used for the active duty enlisted (and this may not all be true), that means that 18 nominations were not used/needed (meaning all active duty applicants were appointed) or were used and those individuals were not selected for appointment (meaning they weren't qualified).

    I have not seen a cap to the prior enlisted quota beyond what the SECNAV can nominate. A prior enlisted individual has all 4 other nomination categories still available (3 MOCs + VP).
     
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    Usnabgo08 I am reading those numbers the way you are. It appears the enlisted spots are not all being taken. My DS meets all requirements just waiting on DODMERB which he has passed the prior 2 times. I am praying that I am understanding correctly and he should receive appointment this time around.
     
  6. activedutymom

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    All the M/Cs (Midshipmen Candidates) at NAPS (including active duty and reserve) are required to apply for all the nominations that they are eligible for. Since this is mandatory, the majority of the M/Cs get at least one. Seems like USNA tries to save the Sec Navy noms for those that don't get one (i.e.: some MOC refuse to nominate a NAPSter as they know they will get a nomination regardless).
     
  7. usnabgo08

    usnabgo08 USNA 2008/BGO

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    activedutymom, that is correct...56 (prior-enlisted active duty, less 11 who were direct entry) + 85 (assuming all of these nomination get charged to NAPSTERs) = 141, which means at least 74 NAPSTERs had to get nominations and be charged from another source/method.

    NavyFleetMom, I think you might be misunderstanding nomination vs. appointment. The SECNAV issues nominations AND NOT appointments. Where you say "all the enlisted spots are not being taken" that is for nominations -- nothing to do with appointments. There is no requirement for the number of enlisted that can be appointed to USNA -- it could be 0, 10, 40, 50%, etc. The only requirement is the limit of 85 SECNAV nominations to the Fleet candidates...a nomination is required to compete for an appointment (without a nomination, it is guarantee a candidate will not be appointed). So, even if all 85 nominations are not issued out, it has no bearing on how many will be appointed. Getting a SECNAV nomination does not equal appointment.

    To be eligible to compete for an appointment = Scholastically Qualified (Admissions Board), Medically Qualified (DODMERB), Physically Qualified (CFA), AND have at least one official nomination (various sources). IF one of these does not happen -- it is a guarantee of no appointment. Having all of these things still DOES NOT guarantee an appointment.

    Confusing?
     
  8. NavyFleetMom

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    I completely understand nomination and appointment. This is our 3rd time to this rodeo. I would like to have some knowledge of how many get an appointment versus how many complete a qualified application from the fleet.
     
  9. usnabgo08

    usnabgo08 USNA 2008/BGO

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    I do not have that information. Your DS might be able to get that from the Fleet Admissions Counselor, if that is something you (or he) want to pursue.
     
  10. NavyFleetMom

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    I read this on here the other day. Time to put my patient pants on!!!
     

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