Pilot Slots through AF and Navy?

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  1. the_yeti2351

    the_yeti2351 Member

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    I am just wondering, what exactly were the acceptance rates for people who applied for a pilot slot and received 1 in the AF and/or the Navy. Thank you :smile:
     
  2. DevilDog

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    When I was at the AF Academy with my son a few weeks ago the question regarding pilot slots was raised. The answer was that anyone that has not had discipline problems and that is medically qualified would most likely be able to get a slot. That is what we were told, those are not my words, so don't jump all over me if it is not correct. I have no reason to doubt the sincerity of the people doing the orientation. I don't know what it is for Navy.
     
  3. Apgallozzi

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    Does anyone know how competitive it is to lock in a BUD/S slot to be a SEAL?
     
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    Sounds like the pitch for some swampland I mean waterview property a similar silver toungued devil was trying to sell me....
     
  5. Is2day4him

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    the answers to all of these questions are rather simple actually. depends on how bad you want it.

    as far as the AF goes, the biggest caviot to getting a pilot slot is that you have to start your package no later than the start of your junior year. granted we don't get many people that go AF out of this school, it's still a viable option and i know several people that have started a flight career in the AF out of KP.

    with the USN, it's a little different. you can start your package your senior year, but there's more "in-house" competition for each slot. i believe this year they have 9-10 slots for Navy, but only 20-something applicants for these billets, so even those odds aren't bad.

    as far as SEALs are concerned, i've seen 3 people who have graduated since i came here report for BUD/S. two of them are already done with training and have their tridents, the other just started first phase. the thing with getting a BUD/S slot here is that you, more or less, have to go through CAPT (SEAL) Bisset, USN-Ret. to have a shot. he will absolutely refuse to endorse you unless he's positive you can and will make it through training. he is a no-nonsense, straight shooting, dedicated to producing only the finest warriors, kind of man. if you meet his standards (which are substantially higher than the minimal officer requirements for a BUD/S contract) then he will endorse you. his endorsement carries a ton of weight, as he prides himself on having the highest success rate of any SEAL Mentor in the country. so if you want to go to BUD/S, he's the man you need to impress. if you don't get his endorsement, you may still be able to get a billet, however, my thought is that if he knows who you are and doesn't think you're ready and refuses to endorse you, you should probably re-evaluate your career plans.
     
  6. the_yeti2351

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    Well...looking on how stingy the USAFA has become on their applications, I don't think I have any chance of getting in so that is why I am looking at the USMMA and looking to become a pilot once I choose my service. I want to know what the pilot slot acceptance rates for the USMMA, not the AFA. Thanks
     
  7. kp2001

    kp2001 USMMA Alumnus

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    One option for USMMA grads who want to become pilots is Air National Guard. This is a heck of a deal if you get the slot. You can even sign the contract your Junior year and at that point you will know what platform you will fly.

    One person in my class signed 2nd class year to fly the C-5 with the ANG. Not a bad way to go at all: no worries during flight school as to what platform you will fly. Still have to graduate flight school, but you don't have the added pressure of trying to compete for a certain platform.
     
  8. flieger83

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    I have trained 4 "King's Pointers" as USAF pilots. They all chose the USAF coming out of USMMA, were accepted, and headed off to UPT.

    They've ALL done VERY well and while USAFA grads REALLY REALLY have fun with them... :yllol:

    They really ARE a great recruiting force in that they usually will say something like: "Oh...I served at sea, did the academy thing, and then I chose to go fly..."

    And that usually will stop the rest of us dead in our tracks and we'll typically say something incredibly intelligent like" "....wow...semester at sea...WOW....uh....WOW...."

    Steve
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    USAFA '83
     
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    Well...it's better than graduating from the AFA a year older than most of the people if you got denied the first time around...
     
  11. Amy Nan

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    USAFA Pilot Slots

    Not so far fetched... Pilot slots are typically available to about 1/2 of each graduating class, but this depends on the needs of the force. Most who desire and qualify for pilot slots eventually recieve them.

    I am a USAFA ALO and the parent of a 2009 USAFA grad who received aa pilot slot.
     
  12. kp2001

    kp2001 USMMA Alumnus

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    And then they get to go on and fly UAV's for a living.... oh boy :shake: (only slightly kidding)

    I know that about 1.5yrs ago the AF was hurting for pilots and they were actually "making" some people go to flight school who didn't necessarily want to. The AF guys in my API class were more than a bit worried that they would have to wear their ascot while sitting behind a computer.

    I'm glad the Navy has chosen to allow the E's to fly UAV's and allow the Officer's to remain in the cockpit.
     
  13. flieger83

    flieger83 Super Moderator Moderator

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    Uh...

    Been there, DID that...(he said, graduating at age 23 1/2)

    Steve
    USAFA ALO
    USAFA '83
    Rejected: USAFA/USNA/USMA/USMMA/USCGA '82
    Appointed: USAFA/USNA/USMA/USMMA '83, ALTERNATE to USCGA '83 (they're tough!)
     
  14. SamAca10

    SamAca10 Ensign - DWO

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    Flieger

    so was USAFA or USCGA your first choice?
     

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