PREP

cruisemom67 said:
DD just got NMMI Principal on her portal. Does that mean now only prep, or is she still being considered for KP.
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It means only prep, and that's what you want. Because most (80-90%) of people who were offered prep would probably tank if they came straight to KP. NMMI is good, because you'll already be broken into the regiment by the time you get here. For people like me, who came straight from the regular environment to KP, the transition can be painful. It's really a win/win.
 
cmakin said:
Back to the question. . . if one has to pay for Prep, I would certainly rather do it at a maritime school. . . . as mentioned above, the credits may not transfer but the knowledge will. . . .
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The academy gives each prep student a "Scholarship" which includes most of the cost of attending either NMMI or MMI. So it's essentially a free year of college, albeit at a junior college in Roswell.
 
MMA19kid said:
The academy gives each prep student a "Scholarship" which includes most of the cost of attending either NMMI or MMI. So it's essentially a free year of college, albeit at a junior college in Roswell.
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Gotcha. . .wasn't sure how it worked.. . . in my day, I was offered Prep for the USNA, but was appointed to KP. . . which was fine with me since by that time, a military career was less enticing than a civilian mariner career. . .
 
Mma19kid my son feels an opportunity to prepare, learn, get more experience and be around baseball an extra year is a good choice for him. Plan B Mass. Maritime education can always be paid for down the road. Being sponsored is a great value!
 
fl.mom said:
prepare, learn, get more experience and be around baseball
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Division III baseball is really worth nothing in the long run, and shouldn't be part of the equation at all. My point is that by prepping for a year to enter a maritime academy when you could just as easily enter another maritime academy and not burn a year of income that you would have accrued sailing on a license.
 
MMA19kid said:
Division III baseball is really worth nothing in the long run, and shouldn't be part of the equation at all.
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Not true. There are many student-athletes that have worked years, academically and athletically, in order to realize their dreams of playing their sport in college. Kids that have the chance to play their sport at a Service Academy know, that while their future does not include professional athletics, it is smart to prepare for a future outside of sport. My DS has played organized sports since he was three years old and he will do whatever it takes to play four more. Everyone has to make their own decisions, for their own reasons. Good on you for knowing what you want for your future, but what was good for you is not necessarily right for anyone else.
 
MMA19kid said:
Division III baseball is really worth nothing in the long run, and shouldn't be part of the equation at all. My point is that by prepping for a year to enter a maritime academy when you could just as easily enter another maritime academy and not burn a year of income that you would have accrued sailing on a license.
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Soon enough the kid will be working the rest of his life, doing the same-old-same-old 24/7/365, year after year, until he's dead. Experiences such as college sports, or academy, come literally once a lifetime. For the life of me, I don't see what the rush is.
 
Just FYI - in the recent past, sponsored prep means half the tuition was paid (not full scholarship). But it means much more than that as far as admissions. It's acknowledgement that you are desired and worth the investment.
I agree, what's the rush?Team sports build character and leadership. If not fully prepared, you could be setback or worse and lose more than just one year. You have a chance to prove yourself at MMI or NMMI, build confidence and come in with a support network of friends. Then when you get to KP, instead of a painful transition, you can hit the ground running, get good grades and take leadership role.

Yes I am biased, but KP is superior not just because of sea term. The whole experience is much more intense and they turn out a mariner who is second to none and prepared for a higher calling than just to get the license and get faster to a paycheck.
 
That's exactly what I told my daughter. They are investing money in you because they want you later. They don't do that for everyone. Plus it's not just half tuition, you get IN STATE tuition, saving another $10,000.
 
My DD also worried about an extra year of school meaning she would have a year longer til she started making money. HOWEVER, she's looking at Texas Maritime Academy. Cost is $130,000 for four years, plus not getting paid on training vessels though required to do three summer cruises. So if you can make $100,000 a year coming from a Maritime Academy, isn't that first year (plus some) wasted by paying off what the education cost?
 
Mman5247 said:
Yes I am biased, but KP is superior not just because of sea term. The whole experience is much more intense and they turn out a mariner who is second to none and prepared for a higher calling than just to get the license and get faster to a paycheck.
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Wow, as an alum I am flattered. Not sure I agree with you though..... You are all looking at this through a different lens. MMA19Kid is a plebe. I can understand why the prospect of spending money and an extra year for the privilege of what he is in the middle of seems like a bad idea.
 
FALgarand said:
Soon enough the kid will be working the rest of his life, doing the same-old-same-old 24/7/365, year after year, until he's dead. Experiences such as college sports, or academy, come literally once a lifetime. For the life of me, I don't see what the rush is.
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Well. . . . as an alumni, I can say that my work life after school has been anything BUT the same-old-same-old. . . . that includes my sailing and "shoreside" careers. . . . that is the beauty of a maritime education. . . .
 
cruisemom67 said:
My DD also worried about an extra year of school meaning she would have a year longer til she started making money. HOWEVER, she's looking at Texas Maritime Academy. Cost is $130,000 for four years, plus not getting paid on training vessels though required to do three summer cruises. So if you can make $100,000 a year coming from a Maritime Academy, isn't that first year (plus some) wasted by paying off what the education cost?
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I know my DS dreaded adding another year to his education, but as a parent, a year at prep school was great for him. Good luck.
 
cruisemom67 said:
My DD also worried about an extra year of school meaning she would have a year longer til she started making money. HOWEVER, she's looking at Texas Maritime Academy. Cost is $130,000 for four years, plus not getting paid on training vessels though required to do three summer cruises. So if you can make $100,000 a year coming from a Maritime Academy, isn't that first year (plus some) wasted by paying off what the education cost?
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Holy. . . $130K? Man, that must include the costs of the training cruises (and I know that they aren't cheap). TAMUG is a decent school, though. A couple of things, while a KP cadet gets paid during their Sea Year, it isn't really that much. In my day it was around $12 a day. I think it is a bit more now, but really just spending money. Not sure that the $100K figure is accurate. I know that it is "possible", though; but it all depends on the state of the maritime industry at graduation.. . . . that said, my daughter has some college loans to pay off (not anywhere near six figures, though) but she can handle it. Does a doctor think that the years paying off his medical school costs are wasted? Not sure. . . .
 
Life will be what life will be. Overanalyzing and over planning it will only add to the stress of it.

Is starting work at 22 instead of 23 really that big of a deal? Will your life be that much more satisfying or enriching because you made that extra $60K over the course of the 40+ years you will be working for the man? Will your career be stunted in some fashion because you achieved your college diploma five years after high school instead of four?

Work is overrated, happiness is not. Take life as it comes and don’t sweat it. If you spend all your time trying to bend life to your will and some preconceived notion of what it “should” be, said life will just end up being shorter.
 
KPEngineer said:
Life will be what life will be. Overanalyzing and over planning it will only add to the stress of it.

Is starting work at 22 instead of 23 really that big of a deal? Will your life be that much more satisfying or enriching because you made that extra $60K over the course of the 40+ years you will be working for the man? Will your career be stunted in some fashion because you achieved your college diploma five years after high school instead of four?

Work is overrated, happiness is not. Take life as it comes and don’t sweat it. If you spend all your time trying to bend life to your will and some preconceived notion of what it “should” be, said life will just end up being shorter.
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Very philosophical, but correct. . . . just do what you enjoy doing and the rest seems to take care of itself. . . just make sure your life is at least interesting. . . .
 
cmakin said:
Holy. . . $130K? Man, that must include the costs of the training cruises (and I know that they aren't cheap). TAMUG is a decent school, though. A couple of things, while a KP cadet gets paid during their Sea Year, it isn't really that much. In my day it was around $12 a day. I think it is a bit more now, but really just spending money. Not sure that the $100K figure is accurate. I know that it is "possible", though; but it all depends on the state of the maritime industry at graduation.. . . . that said, my daughter has some college loans to pay off (not anywhere near six figures, though) but she can handle it. Does a doctor think that the years paying off his medical school costs are wasted? Not sure. . . .
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The TAMUG is actually $120,000. They do have the cost of the training cruises included in that figure. And we heard cadets during sea year earn roughly $1000 a month. So earning 10,000 as opposed to paying for your training cruises....the math adds up much better for the KP cadet. DD got the Fed Ex a few minutes ago. Thanks to talking with some current NMMI cadets, I think she is ready to commit to NMMI. Yay!!!
 
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