Question about Principal Nom

[aranders75]

My daughter received a principal nomination from MOC to USAFA. She’s awaiting waiver (hopefully) but has everything else in. However, she learned that today someone from her slate (and HS) received an appointment to USAFA which was communicated to him by the MOC live on Teams at the HS. That doesn’t necessarily mean that USAFA turned down her waiver, correct? Perhaps he has a nomination from another source but then why would the MOC communicate the appointment? And would USAFA let her know she was passed over before they would offer an appointment to another candidate (assuming he “used” his MOC nomination?) This announcement has caused a bit of anxiety in our house as we’ve been in the waiver waiting game. Thanks for any insights.

 

[A1Janitor]

All candidates need to be 3Q. No candidate can be appointed if they are medically disqualified unless they receive a waiver.

They will let her know if her waiver was denied.

Another candidate from her slate that is offered an appointment does not mean her waiver was denied. That candidate may or may not be charged to that slate, regardless of the MOC press. More than one candidate from the same district is often appointed.

 

[aranders75]

All candidates need to be 3Q. No candidate can be appointed if they are medically disqualified unless they receive a waiver.

They will let her know if her waiver was denied.

Another candidate from her slate that is offered an appointment does not mean her waiver was denied. That candidate may or may not be charged to that slate, regardless of the MOC press. More than one candidate from the same district is often appointed.

Thank you. I will pass on this info to her.

 

[Ivy22]

It's seen as good PR for the MOCs to meet with their constituents who have been appointed to a service academy. Even if it's not *their* nomination haha

 

[OldRetSWO]

It's seen as good PR for the MOCs to meet with their constituents who have been appointed to a service academy. Even if it's not *their* nomination haha

There is nothing sketchy or even funny about this. The MOC can be justifiably proud of every constituent that gets in. I know that in my district, both the member and her staff try very hard to assist everyone who is applying, even if they don't get one of their noms.

 

[severn]

My daughter received a principal nomination from MOC to USAFA. She’s awaiting waiver (hopefully) but has everything else in. However, she learned that today someone from her slate (and HS) received an appointment to USAFA which was communicated to him by the MOC live on Teams at the HS. That doesn’t necessarily mean that USAFA turned down her waiver, correct? Perhaps he has a nomination from another source but then why would the MOC communicate the appointment? And would USAFA let her know she was passed over before they would offer an appointment to another candidate (assuming he “used” his MOC nomination?) This announcement has caused a bit of anxiety in our house as we’ve been in the waiver waiting game. Thanks for any insights.

... so it's only January, far from 15 April. Relax for now. However work on Plan B... even sending the security deposit. If the appointment comes in, the $$$ deposit is a footnote in family lures.

 

[aranders75]

... so it's only January, far from 15 April. Relax for now. However work on Plan B... even sending the security deposit. If the appointment comes in, the $$$ deposit is a footnote in family lures.

Thank you. Her plan B is in place and it’s a good one so she’s prepared! I appreciate everyone’s insights!

 

[time2]

There are other sources of NOM's besides the MOC. Hopefully, you have applied for all of the ones for which you are eligible as the SA's always recommend doing. There are several current threads going where people seem to have their facts jumbled about how this all works. A MOC can nominate TEN individuals for each opening they have at an SA. Some/all of those may eventually end up with an appointment. Where the SA eventually decides to charge the NOM may or may not be to that MOC. You can't draw any conclusions about your own application based on someone else getting an appointment. SA's generally never tell applicants where the NOM was charged and at the point you get an appointment, you probably don't care.

Between now and approx. April 15, the SA's will be continuing to hand out appointments and making the determination of where to charge the NOM's. There isn't any point in worrying about the process, since it is nothing you have any control over.

 

[justdoit19]

There are other sources of NOM's besides the MOC. Hopefully, you have applied for all of the ones for which you are eligible as the SA's always recommend doing. There are several current threads going where people seem to have their facts jumbled about how this all works. A MOC can nominate TEN individuals for each opening they have at an SA. Some/all of those may eventually end up with an appointment. Where the SA eventually decides to charge the NOM may or may not be to that MOC. You can't draw any conclusions about your own application based on someone else getting an appointment. SA's generally never tell applicants where the NOM was charged and at the point you get an appointment, you probably don't care.

Between now and approx. April 15, the SA's will be continuing to hand out appointments and making the determination of where to charge the NOM's. There isn't any point in worrying about the process, since it is nothing you have any control over.

Really great point that I think often gets overlooked by candidates: the CHARGING of the nom. Great post here.

In my BGO training a while back, during this session, it was pointed out that the actual settling and final charging can go beyond Iday, even.

So, no conclusions can be drawn about whether more candidates can be appointed from a slate after one has publicly announced. As mentioned, the entire slate CAN be appointed.

 

[Ivy22]

There is nothing sketchy or even funny about this. The MOC can be justifiably proud of every constituent that gets in. I know that in my district, both the member and her staff try very hard to assist everyone who is applying, even if they don't get one of their noms.

Oh yeah, that's my point, it's pretty common for them to do. The nom might not ultimately be charged to them, they might not have even submitted a nom for someone. But it's great for the MOC to be able to show off constituents from their district or state who have gotten into a service academy.

A win for someone in the district/state = a win for the MOC