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  1. vtusnahopeful

    vtusnahopeful Member

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    After looking at USNA's website for opportunities after graduation, I came across this for opportunities for women:
    I was wondering if all women could enter for oceanography, intelligence, supply or civil engineering, even if women are physically qualified.
    Thank you!
     
  2. d22

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    Our friends daughter is a Naval Intelligence officer. As for the others that you have listed, I don't see why not.
     
  3. usna1985

    usna1985 USNA Alumnus

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    Traditionally, restricted line (e.g., intel) and staff corps (e.g., supply) are only open to individuals who are NPQ for unrestricted line.

    I believe that at least once in recent years, these selections were open to a VERY, VERY LIMITED number of otherwise fully qualified mids from either gender; however, I don't believe this has occurred often. A more recent grad can probably weigh in here.

    If you are physically qualified for unrestricted line, whether male or female you should be prepared to serve as an unrestricted line officer (e.g., ships, subs, aviation, USMC). There are limited opportunities to transfer to other specialties (e.g., intel) once an officer.
     
  4. navymomwannabe

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    Do you think the numbers for intel will change any with the new cyber operations degree? Can't remember where I read it but there was an article about looking for 4000 new cyber ops personnel......
     
  5. Memphis9489

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    The listed opportunities for women appear to be the same opportunities that exist for men. Fly airplanes? Men can do that. Serve on combatant ships? Seriously?

    It's really kind of a silly statement.

    If one is not physically qualified, they are often offered a restricted line assignment regardless of whether they are male or female.

    By the way, the only restricted line assignment that is permitted for those who are physically qualified for an unrestricted line assignment is the Medical Corps.
     
  6. bubalma

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    Cyber Ops is the big new major at the Academy; and we have been told that due to the great need in cyber warfare and future vision of how naval operations will be handled that this field will be open to both restricted and non-restricted officers.
    However, as with all things Navy nothing is guaranteed. You already knew that, right?
     
  7. usna1985

    usna1985 USNA Alumnus

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    I think they "call out" women separately b/c people not familiar with the military may not understand that options for women today upon commissioning are largely the same as for men. In the "old days" (as in my day), service selection for women and men was VERY different -- and some folks may not realize things have changed.
     
  8. Memphis9489

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    I think it is actually misleading to address the opportunities for women as if they are a separate/special group. With the exception of SEAL and EOD, all the opportunities that exist for the men also exist for the women. It's really as simple as that.

    Wouldn't it be clearer to simply say that all graduates have the same opportunities?

    I found the explanation for the opportunities for women to be perplexing. Imagine what a male candidate might think when reading that? He might think that some of those opportunities are uniquely available to women. And he'd be wrong!
     
  9. COmom

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    Mid tells me that EOD is also open to women.
     
  10. Memphis9489

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    Oh, really? I didn't know that. Has one ever been selected? I don't think I've ever heard of a female midshipman selected for EOD.
     
  11. Hurricane12

    Hurricane12 USNA 2012

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    It happens every couple years in ones or twos. My time at USNA there was like maybe one from 09, one from 10, and I don't think any from 11 or 12.


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  12. Memphis9489

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    That makes it even simpler! All the academy has to say is that SEALs is only available to male midshipmen. However, I doubt that restriction will continue to exist much longer. And, according to the movie "GI Jane", that barrier has already been broken. :smile:
     

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