Re-Applicant for Class of 2029

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MarseilleMan

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Hello All,

Backstory: I applied for USNA for the Class of 2027, emerged unsuccessful and are now trying again for the Class of 2029. I logged into my portal today after about a year of inactivity to try and apply for 2029 but it does not look like I can. I have attached a screenshot of my portal for reference. It looks like it is missing some inputs for the new 2029 application. I know they just released the 2029 application so this might be a case of hurry up and wait but I'd rather check with people in-the-know. Is there someone at tech sup. or admissions I should contact? Thanks!


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Are you sure the 2029 application is open? Screenshot below notes “…in April…”. It is barely 3 April.

Easiest way to confirm is to call Admissions.

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Contact Admissions Via Phone - The admissions switchboard can be reached at 410-293-1858, however we encourage you to use our email form, so that your question will be routed directly to the appropriate person.

I don’t know whether your 2027 login info is still viable.
 

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Last year, the full application for c/o 2028 didn’t really open until June/July-ish, when they gave us our candidate numbers. I don’t think 2029 opens until after NASS.
 
I am in a similar situation, applied for class of 2027 and am now reapplying to class of 2029. My portal likewise looked as yours did. It updated shortly after I completed the Pre-Candidate Questionnaire which opened last Tuesday (April 16th). The actual application has yet to open but my portal now reflects that I have an open application. Hope this helps.
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Have you considered an appointment to the US Merchant Marine Academy at Kings Point? Its a smaller academy same size as CGA . If your end game is becoming a Naval Officer, I urge you to make it an option. Its the next largest source of commissioned Naval Officers after the Naval Academy. You graduate with a Bachelor of Science, a 3rd Officers License in the Merchant Marine and a commision as Ensign USNR. The best part are the options upon graduation.
1. Sail as 3rd Officer in the Merchant Marine.
2. Work in the maritime industry and do 2 weeks/yr training as a USN Strategic Sealift officer.
3.Grad school with an easily obtained waiver.
4. Activate your USNR commission or cross commission into one of the other services.

About 1/3 of the class goes active duty and for the most part everyone's billet they choose gets accomodated as many billets go unfullfilled ie flight school, Nuke school, since most of the class chooses to work in the marine industry or sail on their license as Merchant Marine officers. And why not? The payrange for a freshly minted Merchant Marine 3rd Officer is $120-160k per year. Compare that with Ensign/2nd Lt pay and its a whole other ballgame. I was a member of my class in 1990 that went active duty as a SWO outta Kings Point. I left AD in 1995 as the MPA on a destroyer. I couldnt pass up the opportunity to go back in the MM as the pay was too good for doing exactly what I was doing in the Navy minus the paperwork for 4x the pay. On the very day I left my ship I made a B line from the pier at 32nd St Naval Sta in San Diego to the Marine Engineers MEBA Union Hall in Long Beach and got a 90 day gig as 3rd Engineer on a Supertanker from Long Beach to Valdez to Barbers Pt Hawaii and back. In an instant I went from making $4300/month as a Navy Lt to $18k/month as a 3rd Engineer in the Merchant Marine. The best part is I kept my USNR commission and drilled regularly and retired form the USNR and I retired from the marine engineers union MEBA after 25 yrs enabling me to double dip on two pensions. Again consider the options after graduation. Im now working as a consultant with an engineering firm where many academy grads are employed. One of my coworkers, an AFA grad, did a Five and Dive after babysitting ballistic missile silos in the middle of nowhere middle america. I don't imagine he envisioned himself doing that as a doolie.
 
I’m noting each of you who are reapplying to c/o 2029 seem to have skipped a year,; not applying to c/o ‘28. May I ask why?
 
KPEngnr90 said:
Have you considered an appointment to the US Merchant Marine Academy at Kings Point? Its a smaller academy same size as CGA . If your end game is becoming a Naval Officer, I urge you to make it an option. Its the next largest source of commissioned Naval Officers after the Naval Academy. You graduate with a Bachelor of Science, a 3rd Officers License in the Merchant Marine and a commision as Ensign USNR. The best part are the options upon graduation.
1. Sail as 3rd Officer in the Merchant Marine.
2. Work in the maritime industry and do 2 weeks/yr training as a USN Strategic Sealift officer.
3.Grad school with an easily obtained waiver.
4. Activate your USNR commission or cross commission into one of the other services.

About 1/3 of the class goes active duty and for the most part everyone's billet they choose gets accomodated as many billets go unfullfilled ie flight school, Nuke school, since most of the class chooses to work in the marine industry or sail on their license as Merchant Marine officers. And why not? The payrange for a freshly minted Merchant Marine 3rd Officer is $120-160k per year. Compare that with Ensign/2nd Lt pay and it’s a whole other ballgame. I was a member of my class in 1990 that went active duty as a SWO outta Kings Point. I left AD in 1995 as the MPA on a destroyer. I couldnt pass up the opportunity to go back in the MM as the pay was too good for doing exactly what I was doing in the Navy minus the paperwork for 4x the pay. On the very day I left my ship I made a B line from the pier at 32nd St Naval Sta in San Diego to the Marine Engineers MEBA Union Hall in Long Beach and got a 90 day gig as 3rd Engineer on a Supertanker from Long Beach to Valdez to Barbers Pt Hawaii and back. In an instant I went from making $4300/month as a Navy Lt to $18k/month as a 3rd Engineer in the Merchant Marine. The best part is I kept my USNR commission and drilled regularly and retired form the USNR and I retired from the marine engineers union MEBA after 25 yrs enabling me to double dip on two pensions. Again consider the options after graduation. Im now working as a consultant with an engineering firm where many academy grads are employed. One of my coworkers, an AFA grad, did a Five and Dive after babysitting ballistic missile silos in the middle of nowhere middle america. I don't imagine he envisioned himself doing that as a doolie.
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Thanks for sharing your story. I shared this with my DD who is weighing her options while she sits on the WL. We’re headed to visit MassMA today. It seems to me that getting a Marine Engineering degree from MMA along with doing SSMP to commission as a SSO would get you the same career path trajectory/options. You say you were active for 5 years and reserve for (20?). I thought you had to be active for 20 to qualify for a Navy pension.
 
Schoolbuilder said:
Thanks for sharing your story. I shared this with my DD who is weighing her options while she sits on the WL. We’re headed to visit MassMA today. It seems to me that getting a Marine Engineering degree from MMA along with doing SSMP to commission as a SSO would get you the same career path trajectory/options. You say you were active for 5 years and reserve for (20?). I thought you had to be active for 20 to qualify for a Navy pension.
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I think I just learned how it works: Reservists earn points equal to qualifying years of service. This is all so interesting.
 
Schoolbuilder said:
I’m noting each of you who are reapplying to c/o 2029 seem to have skipped a year,; not applying to c/o ‘28. May I ask why?
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I had received a NROTC scholarship to UT Austin, however during NSI I contracted a virus which resulted in numerous hospitalizations. Consequently I was not medically fit to meet the requirements come fall and forfeited that scholarship. Because it was so late in the application process before I was healthy enough to think about colleges again it was too late for me to have a strong application to the class of 2028. Hence my gap in application years.
 
Schoolbuilder said:
Thanks for sharing your story. I shared this with my DD who is weighing her options while she sits on the WL. We’re headed to visit MassMA today. It seems to me that getting a Marine Engineering degree from MMA along with doing SSMP to commission as a SSO would get you the same career path trajectory/options. You say you were active for 5 years and reserve for (20?). I thought you had to be active for 20 to qualify for a Navy pension.
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Reserve officers usually serve a combination of active years, then active Reserve years. During the active Reserve years to have a “good” year, they have to earn so many points for periods of active duty training, drill weekends, etc. They may come back on AD for a longer period of time for a special assignment. With the accumulation of enough good years, they can retire from the Reserve. I think their retirement pay and some other retirement benefits start at age 60. In contrast, mine started the day after my retirement from AD, at age 46. This is a very general description.
 
Capt MJ said:
Reserve officers usually serve a combination of active years, then active Reserve years. During the active Reserve years to have a “good” year, they have to earn so many points for periods of active duty training, drill weekends, etc. They may come back on AD for a longer period of time for a special assignment. With the accumulation of enough good years, they can retire from the Reserve. I think their retirement pay and some other retirement benefits start at age 60. In contrast, mine started the day after my retirement from AD, at age 46. This is a very general description.
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Thank you or taking the time to explain.
 
Capt MJ said:
Reserve officers usually serve a combination of active years, then active Reserve years. During the active Reserve years to have a “good” year, they have to earn so many points for periods of active duty training, drill weekends, etc. They may come back on AD for a longer period of time for a special assignment. With the accumulation of enough good years, they can retire from the Reserve. I think their retirement pay and some other retirement benefits start at age 60. In contrast, mine started the day after my retirement from AD, at age 46. This is a very general description.
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A modification to the age happened during the mid-East wars which saw many reservists mobilized. Many of them qualify to start earlier than 60 based on the time mobilized for the GWOT. This did not affect me so I don't have firm details but a year or two mobilized was starting the pension and TRICARE at 58 or 59.
 
Schoolbuilder said:
Thanks for sharing your story. I shared this with my DD who is weighing her options while she sits on the WL. We’re headed to visit MassMA today. It seems to me that getting a Marine Engineering degree from MMA along with doing SSMP to commission as a SSO would get you the same career path trajectory/options. You say you were active for 5 years and reserve for (20?). I thought you had to be active for 20 to qualify for a Navy pension.
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The marine engineering degree is very useful. After the Navy when I went back in the Merchant Marine I basically left my vacation pay untouched in between ships as I was able to double dip as an engineer at a powerplant while on vacation. Kept my skills sharp and the powerplant bosses loved that I could weld and was a pretty decent diesel mechanic. Marine Engineering at Kings Point is basically a mechanical engineering degree with trade skills thrown in like welding, pipefitting, electrical maintenance, diesel maintenance, hvac. All trade skills needed by an engineer aboard an oceanliner to do his job. Unlike the Navy, the MM has no enlisted personnel so the officers on commercial ships especially the engineers will do much of the work that's normally done by machinist mates, electricians, hull technicians and boiler techs.
 
OldRetSWO said:
A modification to the age happened during the mid-East wars which saw many reservists mobilized. Many of them qualify to start earlier than 60 based on the time mobilized for the GWOT. This did not affect me so I don't have firm details but a year or two mobilized was starting the pension and TRICARE at 58 or 59.
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Oh yes, thank you, I remember reading about that. Back-to-back mobilizations for many.
 
KPEngnr90 said:
The marine engineering degree is very useful. After the Navy when I went back in the Merchant Marine I basically left my vacation pay untouched in between ships as I was able to double dip as an engineer at a powerplant while on vacation. Kept my skills sharp and the powerplant bosses loved that I could weld and was a pretty decent diesel mechanic. Marine Engineering at Kings Point is basically a mechanical engineering degree with trade skills thrown in like welding, pipefitting, electrical maintenance, diesel maintenance, hvac. All trade skills needed by an engineer aboard an oceanliner to do his job. Unlike the Navy, the MM has no enlisted personnel so the officers on commercial ships especially the engineers will do much of the work that's normally done by machinist mates, electricians, hull technicians and boiler techs.
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Can’t beat the hands-on. I wish my Aersopace Engineering degree program was more hands on at the time; like letting me hop in one of the rockets or satellites I designed once in a while…. Got to stick my whole head in a cylinder cut-alway of a diesel engine in one of the shops while on tour yesterday. Fun…
 
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