Recruiting fraud

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  1. JMS

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    I find the number of field grade officers apparently involved to be appalling.
     
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    The military version of the Darwin Awards
     
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    I am putting on my everything is a conspiracy hat on - the active Army is bringing attention to an old National Guard recruiting scandal to use it against the National Guard. But might backfire on them as most folks can't distinguished between active, guard, and reserves. This scandal actually broke a couple years ago or before. The program itself started back in 2005 and ended in 2012. According a recent article, " Only two such cases surfaced in 2007, [MG Qunatock] said, five in 2008, and 10 in 2010." I remember a senior officer I know being assigned as the investigating officer to review all recruiting bonuses a few years ago. The Congress works slow and it takes couple years to build cases against fraudsters, but why sudden attention now?

    Yes, we need to go after all these fraudsters.

    More Charges in Texas Guard Recruiting Scam, August 2013

    http://www.woai.com/articles/woai-local-news-119078/more-charges-in-texas-guard-recruiting-11579579/

    Fraud investigation targets recruiting program for Army National Guard, Reserve, March 2012.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/inves...ard-reserves/2012/03/12/gIQAp1QXAS_story.html
     
  5. MedB

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    From the original article.... "Of the 300,000 recruiters they say about 1.5 percent were involved in fraud."


    Surely that number of recruiters can't be close to correct?
     
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    Do an internet search on "G-RAP."

    I am pretty sure 300,000 includes all participant of the G-RAP program (actual recruiters and "assistants") for the duration of the program, 5 or 7 ears.
     
  7. LineInTheSand

    LineInTheSand USCGA 2006

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    I haven't heard about this being investigated in my old service....
     
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    From today's WSJ

    from today's WSJ:

    WASHINGTON—More than 1,200 people, including a major general and 29 colonels, may have been involved in a nationwide scheme to defraud a U.S. military recruitment program of at least $29 million before it was shut down in 2012...

    "The accusations of fraud, mismanagement and other potentially criminal activities surrounding this program are as disturbing to us as I know they are to you," Lt. Gen. William Grisoli, director of the Army Staff, told members of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee.

    The accusations come as the Army and the Defense Department are grappling with a series of scandals, including allegations of contracting fraud, cheating and sexual misconduct...

    In some cases, high-school guidance counselors and principals took credit for recruiting students they knew were joining the military, according to investigators.

    Philip Crane, president of Docupak, a Virginia-based marketing firm involved in administering the bonus program, said at the hearing that 28 people of roughly 300,000 involved in the program had been convicted of wrongdoing. Army officials said no one has gone to prison or lost benefits as a result of the continuing investigation.

    Ms. McCaskill said that at least one major general, 29 colonels and dozens of other officers may have been involved in the alleged fraud...

    On Tuesday, lawmakers pressed military leaders to explain why it took so long to shut down an Army National Guard recruiting program that first became the focus of Army investigators in 2007.

    Gen. Grisoli conceded there had been a "fundamental breakdown" in how the program was established and carried out for years.

    The Army concluded that the recruiting program never had proper legal approval and the National Guard failed to carry out proper oversight


    Unbelievable.

    Whoring around Moscow.
    Using counterfeit chips at a casino which you frequent.
    Cheating on proficiency exams.

    Is anyone ever punished for anything other that smoking weed? You sure as hell can't be fired for being stupid.

    Will advise DS not to five and dive.

    The only place with better job security is the NYC public school system.
     
  9. JMS

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    Mine either!
    but my thought was simply that there does seem to be plenty of serious ethical lapses surfacing in the various branches. I assume vacancies will be forthcoming.
    And regards the 'shallow water sailors' :smile: while we would both like to think they are above it all, my confidence in human nature tells me we have just not read about it yet.
     

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