Red Tails

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  1. buff81

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    Any opinions about this movie ? Accurate or too Hollywood.

    Just learned that GEN Davis was a '36 West Point grad (and 4th African-American to graduate from WP) and the 1st USAF African-American General. :thumb:
     
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    So-So movie- I saw it this weekend- Personally,I would recommend waiting for it to hit Netflix. Way better though than "War Horse" which was so lame it was laughable
     
  3. Blackbird

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    DS and I enjoyed it this weekend. Not a great movie, but worth matinee prices especially with your DS or DD during their last few months at home. We went on Friday afternoon and it was filled with old pilots who commented during the movie which was probably the highlight of the afternoon.
     
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    Another Hollywood attempt to turn war into a subject of redemption and good feelings.
     
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    Couldn't agree more. I wanted my money back after that one!
     
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    It was alright. The acting was subpar, and the plot was predictable. The best parts of the movie were the effects and the preview for Act of Valor in my opinion.
     
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    raimius USAFA Alumnus

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    The dogfights: :thumb:
    The plot: :bleh2:
    The dialog: :eek::unhappy::barf::help:

    The special effects and flying were good, but whoever wrote the script needs to go back to high school english class.
     
  8. buff81

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    OK - so maybe it won't win any Academy Awards but maybe the film will highlight a part of WWII history that many may not be aware of.
     
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    Yeah except it doesn't really do a very good job of highlighting just what monumental events the whole Tuskegee Air training program and this fighter group were. I guess that's what disappointed me the most- this was such a chance to really put these guys into context, and instead it was really pretty superficial. Too bad because this is the story of real ground breakers and you don't walk away with that feeling - at least my wife and I didn't. It's just a mediocre film
     
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    The "Tuskegee Airman" rendition done by HBO is A LOT better.

    I liked Warhorse...
     
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    The summer before last my wife and I spent the day at the Air Show at Joint Base Lewis-McCord. They has a book signing and discussion panel with 4 of the Tuskegee Airmen. We were lucky enough to spend about 2 hours with them after the signing. After listening to their stories and experiences the movie will probably be a let down. We will probably still see it at some point, we'll just leave the critic's pen at home.
     
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    Wait, so you're telling me that the acting talents of Ne-Yo and Method Man didn't accurately capture the essence of some fine groundbreaking aviators? Say it ain't so!
     
  13. Bullet

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    Can't really blame the "actors" here (quotation marks used in acknowledgement that being a Rap Star doesn't neccesarily equate to being a good thespian); the blame squarely falls on George Lucas for writing some TERRIBLE dialogue. Guy has become a horrible movie maker, confusing special effects (which I will admit, his special effects VERY good) for good story telling. Surprised Jar-Jar Binks didn't make a cameo flying one of the bombers being escorted.

    But don't worry, good 'Ol George will just keep re-releasing this movie every few years in order to capture his "true vision / director's cut", which usually equates to about 15 seconds of digital touch-up and 4 more "BOOMs".

    Also a sad Hollywood trend lately, thinking the movie-going public needs to be led by the nose to the "message / moral" of their story, thinking we can't figure it out for ourselves unless someone points out the obvious to us every 15 minutes. Annoying, as if this story and the message it centers on (the heroic actions of these honorable men despite the prejudices they faced from their own side) needs to be spelled out for us like we're idiots.
     
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    I'll do you one better. I contend that he's always been a terrible writer. Even the original Star Wars had awful dialog. It's a classic, but the dialogue is terrible.
     
  15. Blackbird

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    I agree with Scoutpilot. George Lucas has NEVER been good at story telling. I find the key to enjoying his movies is watching and not listening with the exception of some of the Yoda lines. "Do or do not, there is no try" is a classic. I guess that is why I found Red Tails to be acceptable. Once I heard it was Lucas film my expectations dropped and I just focused on the special effects.

    Does anybody know if or how many actual aircraft where used in the movie? I am guessing a single P-51 that was digitally duplicated and no B-17's, ME-109's or ME-262's. I don't have a guess on the P-40's.
     

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