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Jessiek46-Congratulations on the appointment!
Happy for some good news. Maybe tomorrow has more...


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How it seems to me in regard to sports and an SA is that our DD/DS's are all multi talented, 80% have competed at the varsity level in high school. I think that regular D1 colleges may lower the bar a bit to recruit an athlete, however I don't think that is necessarily the case for aa SA. Our kids are like that great thread 'Nailed it' where there is a video of a mom talking about her amazing son who did sports, hours of community service, great grades, great college test scores, in multiple clubs, etc, etc.....look at the class of 2017 snapshot.
 
Everyone needs to be sensitive. this thread was created to support everyone, athletes included. There are publicized facts.
USNA has all the stats on their website for the class of 2017!! They are stellar!! However, they also disclose that the majority of NAPS graduates are athletes. the requirement to graduate NAPS to go to USNA a is a 2.2. That is a hard pill to swallow for those who have had a DS/DD denied admission despite being 3Q'd with a nom and there are many on this thread!!! This is the process of USNA, some May or may not like it. let's close this can of worms!!
Congratulations to those who have received an appointment. best wishes to those who will be on a different path, at least for a year, LOL :smile:
 
Jessiek46 YAY!!!!! Happy Dance!!!! So happy for you and your family :smile:

Prepsimmom come back! We NEED you!

On another note, I just sat in traffic for forty-five minutes behind a car with a licence plate frame that said "USNA Class of 1969". Do think this is a sign? Class of 2019!!! :wink:
 
Keep in mind that all incoming varsity athletes did not get accepted at a lower standard than other applicants. I received a LOA back in September based on my academics, test scores and other merits. After receiving my BFE in February, I received a call from the coach asking me to commit to being a varsity athlete. I suspect that he did not recruit me earlier as he knew I was already going to be admitted. I would hate for people to assume I was less qualified to attend because I am an athlete.
 
Ken said:
Keep in mind that all incoming varsity athletes did not get accepted at a lower standard than other applicants. I received a LOA back in September based on my academics, test scores and other merits. After receiving my BFE in February, I received a call from the coach asking me to commit to being a varsity athlete. I suspect that he did not recruit me earlier as he knew I was already going to be admitted. I would hate for people to assume I was less qualified to attend because I am an athlete.
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It isn't a secret that there are some athletes who probably did not have as impressive of resumes as some non-recruited athletes. The way I look at it is... not the comparison of paper to get in... but the question of, "Will this person make an outstanding officer?" That is the bottom line... SAT scores do not translate into leadership ability. That is why the WCS is my mind and the intangibles highlighted in BGO interviews and recommendations are so critical. The majority of athletes get in without any help from the athletic department. Each team has so many folks they can list as recruits and then basically rack and stack them based upon how badly they want them. This is where the term "blue chip" comes into play. I was a blue chip. The BGO from my area wasn't even allowed to talk to me because of recruiting rules. I also received a Principle Nom. I was 3Q and got in without the coaches having to push, they saved that push for another recruit.

This is a tough time for those receiving TWEs and emotions are high. I am sorry to those who have had their dreams deferred (I saw deferred because there are numerous ways to get a commission and reapplicants tend to do well also). Words are sometimes lost in translation. I wish everyone's DS/DD could get in. It sucks and no words can really help. I remember vividly the amount of my Plebe classmates who reapplied and got in on their second chances. Now that I meet candidates applying out of all those that receive the dreaded TWEs, maybe only 1/3-1/2 reapply because they end up really liking their Plan Bs or Cs. The bottom line is once you walk through the doors no one even talks about all that stuff they put on their applications... SAT scores, high school GPAs, etc. Everyone is focused on making it through USNA and the future. NAPS, college, foundation, directs, priors... half the time you won't even learn until several months down the road what path someone took to get there, you all end up on I-Day confused, excited, bald (or with really bad short hair) and ill fitting white works! Good luck everyone.
 
Ken

that was the exact point I was trying to make.

Someone on the forum asked if it ever happens that athletes can have lower standards ... and yes it SOMETIMES does happen but it is not ALWAYS the case (or even most of time). My DS got an LOA ...not for athletics as well ..., but he will participate in varsity athletics .... I would not think that people would assume he had lower standards by the sheer fact that he was on a varsity team.

On I DAY you are all midshipman ...

Using terms like NEVER and ALWAYS tend to get people in trouble. PLEASE dont' misinterpret my previous posts.
 
Thank you Navy Hoops

Thank you for your explanation ... given the fact that you went through all of this you are the voice of wisdom on this subject ... I am out... time to go discuss politics and religion :wink:
 
I think this thread has gotten quite off topic. Remember this was a place of support and understanding for those still in the game, not a thread of debate over recruited and non-recruited athletes. It's gotten out of hand to the point the OP, also one of the biggest supporters, has left.
 
On a lighter note, this thread now has more views than the most-viewed thread on the USMA forum. Beat Army!
 
NavyHoops said:
The majority of athletes get in without any help from the athletic department.
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I am not going to say you're wrong but for my DS's sport, when he was being recruited, we were told only 2 (it may have been 3) on the team made it in on their own. The rest had "help".
 
Agree with you too MiddyB,
I tried to end this topic a few posts ago!!! Signing off,

happy mailbox stalking to those "STILL IN THE GAME!!!"
 
Ok people - now that I am back from my DS's swim banquet I can explain my cynical attitude toward recruits at USNA. When DS began the college search, while I knew he wanted USNA more than anything I decided to buy
"U.S. News and World Report" Best Colleges issue. one day while I was out. There is a section "How They Got In"....and to my surprise one of the students was a USNA Mid. He was a basketball recruit, one of 17 schools that wanted him. And I quote "He just liked the feel of the place when he visited campus"...but the killer was, they gave his stats - GPA: 3.2..........SAT: 550 Math, 550 CR, 470 writing, 21 ACT composite!!! My son wanted to go to USNA because his career goal is to commission as a Naval Officer and serve his country not because he liked the feel of the place. Now maybe this kid is great and an outstanding Mid, but on paper, my DS has him beat 20 ways to Sunday but got the TWE instead of the Appointment. That is why I am cynical.
 
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