**The Real Story behind parental "overstepping"**

MullenLE

A GUY WITH "INTRICATE KNOWLEGE" OF DODMERB
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I'm not mad in the least. I serve one purpose here and one purpose only - to ASSIST applicants navigate their way thru the medical process of their application. In this period of transition, that is the sole role of parents also...some just don't realize that yet. So this doesn't get lost in the layers, I will also make this a separate post.

CLARITY OF MY POSITION BASED ON 20 YEARS OF ARMY ENLISTED & OFFICER ACTIVE DUTY AND NOW, 30 YEARS OF DIRECT EXPERIENCE AND THOUSANDS OF APPLICANT ISSUES:

BLUF: Parents do NOT need to disengage. Parents just need to remain in the background. The
FACE of ALL Applicant/Cadet/Mid actions with DoDMERB; Congressional Staffers; B&G Officers/Field Force/ALOs/USCGA Partners/etc.; Academy/ROTC Cadre; yada, yada, yada. If someone doesn't agree with the below, chances are...their counsel is not very sage. (The most telling example of parent overstepping, was not even in this context. I was on a plane with a college professor and the Dean of a college within a Tier I University. The parents demanded to attend/participate in an appeal of a 30 year old PhD disseration !!!)


As stated in the parent/applicant reference document:

"4. While this is an Applicant Reference Guide, the operative word is “applicant.” We’ll help you.:wiggle: APPLICANTS ONLY (If your parents read this part, you’ll know why I wrote it this way:wiggle:) – This is YOUR future, YOUR application, and it needs to be YOUR decision. Parents are very useful in providing YOU sage advice and counsel…in the background…say again, IN THE BACKGROUND. YOU should take all actions regarding YOUR application. If YOU are offered an appointment to one/more Service Academy and/or are awarded a scholarship to an ROTC Program(s), guess what? Your parents do NOT get to attend with YOU:wiggle:. While the Service Academies and ROTC programs have bunk beds--- those are for your roommates,
not your parents! Therefore, this process begins that transition of YOUR independence. Again, they can assist YOU, but YOU should be the lead on all application actions. They should be like the military guidon bearer --- YOU are the Commander and they should be one step to the right and one step behind YOU. They can discuss anything and everything with YOU, just not DODMERB. Go easy on them. This will NOT be an easy thing for them to do…to start to let go:wiggle:.

PARENTS: While I’ve emphasized the above to a fault, I can only share with you my vast experience in this area. Your wisdom will be deeply appreciated by your son or daughter, but the “action” part of this exercise is best for all, when the applicant takes direct ownership of THEIR process, with Admissions, Congressional Nominations, DoDMERB, etc.:wiggle:."
 
Our honor and privilege to serve :wiggle:
 
Good advice. My DS is a rising senior in H.S. I have given him all the advice that I have to give. I was just thinking about this subject this morning. It is time for me to step back completely. No more daily reminding him to do pull-ups or run. He knows what he needs to do. Now it is up to him to do it. I may ask him from time to time if he has finished this application or that, but he needs to fly on his own. He is learning to manage his senior class schedule with PT, NJROTC and work. That is good practice for life. I am letting him do it all.
 
Good advice. My DS is a rising senior in H.S. I have given him all the advice that I have to give. I was just thinking about this subject this morning. It is time for me to step back completely. No more daily reminding him to do pull-ups or run. He knows what he needs to do. Now it is up to him to do it. I may ask him from time to time if he has finished this application or that, but he needs to fly on his own. He is learning to manage his senior class schedule with PT, NJROTC and work. That is good practice for life. I am letting him do it all.
Best gift you can give, the trust he needs to solve problems on his own.
 
Good advice. My DS is a rising senior in H.S. I have given him all the advice that I have to give. I was just thinking about this subject this morning. It is time for me to step back completely. No more daily reminding him to do pull-ups or run. He knows what he needs to do. Now it is up to him to do it. I may ask him from time to time if he has finished this application or that, but he needs to fly on his own. He is learning to manage his senior class schedule with PT, NJROTC and work. That is good practice for life. I am letting him do it all.
But that having been said, DS #2 always has had his stuff together. When he was 2-3 and DW was taking him out on a trip, he would pack his own diaper bag. However, every child is different. My DS #1 definitely DOES NOT have his stuff together. He needed, as still needs, more parental assistance and involvement. They don't all "launch" at the same age.
 
Mr. Mullen, you are an asset to this country. You and all the members of DoDMERB etc. helped my daughter maneuver through that process and I am proud to say she is now almost finished with her swab summer at the U.S. Coast Guard Academy. My wife and I have learned quickly to pull back and let her lead her life. I think the whole application process including DoDMERB needs to be the start of that process.

I saw a post somewhere that said - Parents, your role is changing from 'Active Parent' to 'Consulting Parent'. Good statement I believe. When you can't text or call your DD or DS and you catch a picture online of them in a pair of crutches and you have no idea what happened, you realize your involvement level has changed.
 
Our honor and privilege to serve :wiggle:
 
Mr. Mullen, you are an asset to this country. You and all the members of DoDMERB etc. helped my daughter maneuver through that process and I am proud to say she is now almost finished with her swab summer at the U.S. Coast Guard Academy. My wife and I have learned quickly to pull back and let her lead her life. I think the whole application process including DoDMERB needs to be the start of that process.

I saw a post somewhere that said - Parents, your role is changing from 'Active Parent' to 'Consulting Parent'. Good statement I believe. When you can't text or call your DD or DS and you catch a picture online of them in a pair of crutches and you have no idea what happened, you realize your involvement level has changed.
And guess who said that ‘active parent, to consulting parent’???

The wise @Capt MJ

I have packed it away in my own files. It really says it all. And is so true.
 
But that having been said, DS #2 always has had his stuff together. When he was 2-3 and DW was taking him out on a trip, he would pack his own diaper bag. However, every child is different. My DS #1 definitely DOES NOT have his stuff together. He needed, as still needs, more parental assistance and involvement. They don't all "launch" at the same age.
But launch they must.

I feel for you on every kid. Middle son DS 2 goes to college tomorrow. He has owned everything since a Freshman in HS. He is playing NCAA golf and won a 3AD. You don't need to remind him of anything. In fact he takes it kinda of personal if you do. If he needs help. He will ask.

DD (baby of the family) learned from DS#2. She is squared away.

Oldest DS1 was a Battalion Commander and 3 sport athlete, but needed his mom to constant remind him or take care of things. It took tough love to finally break him of that habit.

Oh wow your rent is late. Get a calendar!
 
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