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I think that "DNA" is slowly being deleted from the future pilots in the military.

Yes, they usually still fit the stereotype, but by and far the vast majority I work with on a daily basis are pretty careful about what they do in the cockpit these days.

Yes, events like the one that started this thread still happen, but I don't think it's as common as in the past (no statistics, just my opinion).

But to add to the stories: the worst one I've seen video footage was during my time in ground school. They showed a clip of an army helicopter flying low through an area with trees. The pilot asks over the ICS if the person in the backseat thinks he can fit between two trees. Person in the back says no, pilot says he's an idiot and goes for it. Of course, we all know how that one ends...blades hit the trees, explitives shouted, and a broken aircraft (luckily no fatalities)

Description doesn't do it justice, video is an eye-opener.
 
kp2001 said:
I think that "DNA" is slowly being deleted from the future pilots in the military.

Yes, they usually still fit the stereotype, but by and far the vast majority I work with on a daily basis are pretty careful about what they do in the cockpit these days.

Yes, events like the one that started this thread still happen, but I don't think it's as common as in the past (no statistics, just my opinion).

But to add to the stories: the worst one I've seen video footage was during my time in ground school. They showed a clip of an army helicopter flying low through an area with trees. The pilot asks over the ICS if the person in the backseat thinks he can fit between two trees. Person in the back says no, pilot says he's an idiot and goes for it. Of course, we all know how that one ends...blades hit the trees, explitives shouted, and a broken aircraft (luckily no fatalities)

Description doesn't do it justice, video is an eye-opener.
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Easy to find on YouTube. Look up AH-64 Apache and trees. That happened here at Campbell (you hear the controller tell him to report "Ghost"). Both aviators lost their wings.
 
They still have the A+++ personality and the DNA to put themselves in harms way everyday. You have probably done or observed a walkaround and you know they do not take their mission lightly. They do like to let go every once in a while. If they did youtube of the O-Club after a combat mission it would be a best seller. Hope they never delete the DNA.
 
AF6872 said:
They still have the A+++ personality and the DNA to put themselves in harms way everyday. You have probably done or observed a walkaround and you know they do not take their mission lightly. They do like to let go every once in a while. If they did youtube of the O-Club after a combat mission it would be a best seller. Hope they never delete the DNA.
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O-club....you're dating yourself!
 
There are still o-clubs.




What's hard to find are BOQs......

All CBQs now.
 
LineInTheSand said:
There are still o-clubs.




What's hard to find are BOQs......

All CBQs now.
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The O-Clubs don't exist in the army by and large. Across the services, the war on alcohol has killed the O Club culture.

We still have plenty of BOQs left, though. Hooray.
 
Actually,

The AF is not like the Army, many O'Clubs are alive and kicking.

The AF still has the tradition when the O4/5/6 boards come out, those on the list BUY the bar at the Club.

Airshow weekends and the Club is the place to be.

Squadrons still have Crud tourneys yrly, and the Club is the place to be.

Fighter bases have Combat Dining In/Outs and the Club is the place to be after the function.

Assignment night the Club is the place to be

Battle of Britain with Brit pilots and the O Club is the place to be

Military Ball is typically at the Club

Squadron Xmas parties...at the Club

Yes, go on a weekend when nothing is happening and he is dating himself compared to 20-30 yrs ago. However, at certain bases, like SJAFB, you can see it is about 1x a month where it is hopping.

I don't have enough fingers or toes to count regarding how many times in a 3 yr period that on a Sat a.m. we drove by the club and saw 15-20 cars still in the lot.

I do agree that the alcohol issue has killed the clubs, members fear that as they pass through the gate they will get nailed, but go back to my previous statement about how the AF members leave cars behind.
 
The facilities exist in the Army. They are now "All-Classes Clubs." The culture has shifted.
 
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That was what I thought. In the AF we call them Tri-Clubs (O, NCO and Enlisted).
The AF culture has shifted too.

All clubs are NAF, if the O club cannot fiscally support themselves, they are gone the way of the DO- DO bird into extinction.
 
At Minot, a lot of the people who lived on base, and who worked at the Wing building in "shop" jobs (OSS, etc.), would go to the club on Friday afternoons. Not so much the single people who lived in town. Minot, ND is a happening place, let me tell you:wink:.
 
Thursday nights at Maxwell's club can get busy.
What happens when you have 600+ new LTs at ASBC? :biggrin:
 
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