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Discussion in 'ROTC' started by tle, Nov 12, 2014.

  1. tle

    tle Member

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    How much will my 4-Year NROTC Scholarship recipient status help me with admissions? My main concern is my ACT score (28) but I plan on retaking it in December.
     
  2. Sampia

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    Well, since no one else has answered yet I will give it a shot. I assume you were asking about the University of Michigan. People come from all over the world to go there. My guess is that your scholarship will not help at all. I do not know if you live in Michigan or you were are hoping to go to that University from some other state. U of M is, as I am sure you know, the only college in Michigan that offers NROTC. however, Eastern Michigan University in Ypsilanti, which is probably a 15 minute drive is considered one of their cross town campuses . Quite a few of the MIDN attend that university. The best thing to do is apply to the school you want and see how it goes but have a backup plan.
     
  3. Dial the gate

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    Son is an NROTC 4/c at UM, and I can tell you first hand, admissions doesn't care about the scholarship. They are going to fill the school without need for ROTC money. Last year son received the 4-year scholarship during the first round, so waiting on admissions was beginning to give me anxiety! Son called admissions, even though I had read here that they didn't care, and he was told exactly that. They didn't even want his name when he tried to have it added to his application packet. Was almost insulting! Lol! Do they have any idea what goes into an ROTC application and earning a scholarship?!

    I congratulate you on the scholarship and wish you the very best of luck! But if you are out of state, I would definitely be working on plan B and good luck with the retake in December. Keep in mind also, that UM doesn't superscore, or they didn't last year anyway.
     
  4. cb7893

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    If your DS really wants to enroll at UMich then let them know--not just that he received the scholarship, but that he really wants to enroll there.

    Our DS was accepted early decision to UMich in Jan '12 and wanted it badly. Received 4yr NROTC scholarship in Feb. Unfortunately, he was DQ'd for an eye injury. The fact that he was out of state probably made little difference. We travelled at a considerable expense to visit the school and the NROTC unit. The only person in the city of Ann Arbor who did not give us the DMV treatment was the administrative assistant at the NROTC unit, who was first class.

    DS's best buddy from high school applied regular admission to UMich and was denied. He was, however, accepted to Columbia, Princeton, etc. A good friend who is in the test prep/admissions advising business told me that the kid was denied because UMich admissions didn't believe he would actually enroll. Admissions departments strive ultimately for the high yield, i.e. the greatest number of acceptances that turn into enrollments. Qualified applicants are a dime a dozen.

    What I can tell you from our experience is that UMich couldn't care less about any individual student. I would never discourage your from letting them know that your DS has a scholarship in hand. But you should know that there are probably five thousand kids, from around the globe, whose parents are ready to pay full freight+ for their kids to enter UMich or dump UMich if they get into Stanford.

    If DS really wants UMich then let them know.

    Best of luck!
     
  5. Vista123

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    Dial-the-Gate would know the nrotc situation much better than I for sure.

    With regards to AROTC (in case there are any AROTC lurkers) the PMS at UMICH was great, she did tell my son that they have a very strong relationship with admissions. As soon as my son got his scholarship he contacted the PMS who immediately worked with admissions to make sure he got his acceptance letter in time. (in the end, even though the PMS did all this work son chose another of his three scholarships though---I feel bad about :frown:)
     
  6. jiller59

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    As mentioned above, another option that is to enroll at Eastern Michigan University and attend U of M NROTC cross-town. There should be several students to travel with for PT and drill. It is not unusual for NROTC midshipmen to transfer from Eastern Michigan to U of M once they have proven by their grades that they qualify.

    If possible, call or visit the unit to speak with someone about how current students handle this.

    From the FAQ section of the website: Who can I contact to learn more about the University of Michigan NROTC? For more information or answers to specific questions please contact MIDN Jake Snyder (jcsny@umich.edu), the midshipman recruiting officer.
     
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    When DS applied to University of Michigan, we were surprised to learn that the school doesn't care if students are National Merit Scholarship Award finalists. There are many schools that give full rides to those students! U of M can just be that choosy.

    http://www.michigandaily.com/node/35361
     
  8. cb7893

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    tle, we have all probably sounded a little discouraging. Our DS's/DD's have been through the UMich admissions experience. We all think our kids are awesome. UMich was, for some of us, the first to remind us that our kids are nothing special.

    I cannot emphasize enough that you should not be discouraged. If you really want UMich which is completely understandable, then let them know. If you are qualified, committed to attend and paying full fare, you are the proverbial cat in the bag for them.

    You need to prepare for the ACT. Instead of grinding through the greatest number of practice tests, find a good study guide or search the internet looking for clues about "how" to take standardized test in general and the ACT in particular. There are a number of useful tactics and strategies. How to study? How to actually read the questions? How to eliminate possible answers? There are dozens of free smart phone apps devoted to vocab and problem solving you would find on the ACT/SAT.

    If you do not get in, you may be able to transfer to another unit, especially if the tuition is lower; not hard to do. If you are in the Midwest, the Big 10 has a number of first class institutions. But that is a discussion for another day.

    Best of luck
     
  9. Vista123

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    my son did get admission to UMich (army rotc scholarship in hand) he just chose another school (WashU in St Louis). But the above posters are right, he may have gotten in there anyhow.
     
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    Another suggestion I have seen often on this site is to be sure to take the SAT also. SAT and ACT are different and often you will do better at one than the other. Search for SAT and ACT on this site for more specifics.
     
  11. tle

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    Thank you everyone for your input! These responses have helped me so much.

    Although this is my Plan B school and route, I'm definitely putting my best foot forward to get in. I will be retaking the ACT (I am really bad at the SAT). I'll also reach out to my unit's recruiting midn as soon as possible.

    Thanks again everyone :)


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  12. jiller59

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    Congratulations on your scholarship - no small feat! And best wishes on your
    USNA and/or University of Michigan admissions:thumb:
     

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