USAFA gets new training planes for cadet flight program

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  1. Luigi59

    Luigi59 Banned

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    http://www.gazette.com/articles/force-120071-air-academy.html#ixzz1Pfw8PXVt

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  2. bruno

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    Given that more and more AF Officers will be spending their careers piloting RPVs- and fewer and fewer actually flying manned aircraft-maybe a more appropriate investment for USAFA to give them a head start would have been a fleet of these?:rolleyes:
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    I sure hope that they have that lever to deploy the parachute well marked- would certainly change the flying characteristics a lot to adjust the trim tabs and pop the chute instead.:eek:
     
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    raimius USAFA Alumnus

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    I'm surprised they didn't stick with the DA-40s, but the Cirrus looks pretty similar.



    That's quite the RC B-52! :eek:
     
  4. flieger83

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    That WAS Gordon Nichols' B-52...

    I say was because a few years ago he was "prodded" into flying it on a not-so-nice day and the video was VERY reminiscent of Fairchild AFB: it went into a low altitude spiral dive and was destroyed in the ensuing crash and fire.

    He rebuilt it...and the new bird crashed on its first certification flight when the radio servos failed.

    He has since said he won't rebuild it. It's also been "whispered" that the UK certifying authority for large models privately told him they would NOT certify a third jet. The "word on the circuit" was the jet costs him about 16,000 Pounds Sterling to build. That's about $30K when he was doing it.

    FYI...Gordon is a bank ATM engineer in the UK (he's not some reclusive millionaire, just a really skilled hobbyist) and is very well known throughout the "Large Model Association" for his models. Check them out on the LMA website.

    If you want to see the crash (it's heartwrenching) it's available with a little searching online.

    Steve
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  5. Bullet

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    Bruno, completely understand your post was made with humor as the primary intention, but I just want to clear up a common misconception for those young men and women considering flying careers in the AF.

    The AF has NO plans to reduce the number of manned fighters it intends to keep around and operating through 2040 (and potentially into 2050). Same for its bomber fleet. And while its mobility fleet MAY become remotely piloted one day (big question about "Safety" on that topic), the force size is also programmed to stay the same.

    Of course, who knows what will eventually occur 20-30 years from now with 100% accuracy? But I can say that while the conversation about increasing RPV size is occurring, the AF (and the Navy / Marines) fully intend to have similar levels of manned aircraft for long while. Increases in computer technology, combined with fiscal realities, may change that (but the "fiscal realities" part and the thought that RPVs are cheaper to operate is not a close to the truth as some most would believe).

    In fact, the services will face a pilot pilot shortage in the very near future. Good news for the young people looking at these threads, as the services are planning to soon be cranking out new fighter pilots at rates not seen since the 80s.

    Bottom Line: having a "introduction to powered flight" program at the AFA is a good thing and well worth the relatively inexpensive investment. We'll continue to need cadets knowledgeable and inspired to become aviators for a long time.

    However, if they WANT to fly the planes you show, that opportunity should be around as well. Flying that mini-BUFF from your I-Pad seems like it would be pretty cool! :thumb:
     
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    What's the old saying? "We're going down like a Cirrus full of doctors!"
     
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    hornetguy USAFA Cadet

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    The Cirrus aircraft are pretty sweet. I see many of them at the airport here and would love to fly them, but they cost twice as much to rent as a Cessna or Piper. Sweet aircraft. Though I wonder what they are doing with the DA-40s? Those were also very nice aircraft and I remember they flew very well in CO.
     
  8. Luigi59

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    A military pilot called for a priority landing because his single-engine jet fighter was running “a bit peaked.”

    Air Traffic Control told the fighter pilot that he was number two, behind a B-52 that had one engine shut down.

    “Ah,” the fighter pilot remarked, “The dreaded seven-engine approach." :wink:


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    flieger83 Super Moderator Moderator

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    And to now totally take this thread tangentially...

    "...Just remember...when the last B-2 is flown to Davis Monthan AFB and the BONEYARD for disposal/storage...it will have to hold for landing because there'll be a B-52 shooting touch-and-go's in the pattern, and there will be a KC-135 ready to refuel that B-2 in case the BUFF decides to shoot multiple approaches!"

    Steve
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