USMAPS Info/Homeschoolers

Discussion in 'Service Academy Preparatory Schools' started by USMA2020, Feb 17, 2013.

  1. USMA2020

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    So I know absolutely nothing about the Prep Schools, and exactly what it takes. I really want to know, because if I don't get into USMA I would like to at least get into the Prep School, then perhaps I could get into the Academy.

    Also, what about homeschoolers at USMAPS.
     
  2. scoutpilot

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    This should answer a lot of the questions you've been asking:

    http://bit.ly/12HeI2c
     
  3. ArmyStrong7

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    I graduated from Prep last year and will be happy to answer any questions you have, unlike the person above. One of my friends from prep was home schooled too. Do you have any specific questions?
     
  4. USMA2020

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    Thanks.
     
  5. USMA2020

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    I guess, just how all of this works, as far as getting in. I mean, a lot of the stuff they look at is class rank, and obviously I don't have that, and also I am really running into the problem of sports and my mom not really wanting me to do JROTC, because of not wanting to get involved with the public schools.

    Ashleigh
     
  6. scoutpilot

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    So, essentially, you don't have any specific questions. You want to have a general answer to the amorphous "tell me all I need to know about USMAPS" question.

    Step one is research on your own. Read the website, which you can find via Google (I even helped you out with that). From the website you would've learned many things about USMA admissions and the prep school.

    Step two is to read the multitude of threads on here about admissions and the prep school. The search function is your friend.

    Once you've done that, you should ask specific questions for people like "the person above" to answer based on his experience at the prep school.

    Why are you even concerned about USMAPS? Your focus should not be on USMAPS, unless you plan to be a recruited athlete, a prior service soldier, or an underrepresented minority. Your first focus should be admission to USMA. The prep school is an option that may or may not be presented to you.

    Since joining this forum, you've carpet-bombed almost every section with posts demanding answers to nebulous questions. Relax. You're 14. Get your basic priorities in order and then focus on the near-term steps you need to take, not worrying about USMAPS.
     
  7. USMA2020

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    It is, and I looked over the stuff. I am just curious.

    Ashleigh
     
  8. ArmyStrong7

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    I agree with you. She is getting a little too anxious too early, but the way you approached her was unnecessary. USMA is obviously her dream school and I understand why she would be excited and want to get a head start at making sure she is a shoe in. I kinda wish I had the same mindset she did during my freshman year.If I did I would be a Yearling at USMA right now and I would not be in the same situation I'm in at this moment. If you are irritated by her posts don't get on her about it in public and be immature. You should have sent her a respectful private message about whatever issue you had with her. That first post by you was really unnecessary in my opinion. I just really think that you should think twice before you allow your emotions and immaturity show through your posts.
     
  9. ArmyStrong7

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    I've posted some stuff about USMAPS on the Prep page and the USMA page in other threads if you haven't seen them yet. The question shouldn't be "What does it take to get into USMAPS" because honestly, you want to be at USMA rather than USMAPS. Prepsters have a reputation at USMA for being the "slow learners" or "dummies" and trust me you don't want that reputation. The ones who get into USMAPS are the ones who aren't quite making the mark to get into USMA medically, academically, or physically, but WP likes them a lot. Others that join USMAPS are those who got a direct admittance but got injured, recruited athletes, and some prior service. My stats coming from high school was a 3.2 gpa (I believe) and a 24 composite ACT score. I was a softball recruit as well. Hopefully my stats and info help you out and give you a good glimpse at what kind of students Prep has. I'm here if you need any more info! Just contact me here or private message me!:smile:
     
  10. ArmyStrong7

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    I'm a girl btw lol:smile:
     
  11. scoutpilot

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    That's right. You were the one worried about the boyfriend situation.

    Listen, kid, some of us have been at this for awhile. A long while. A while that includes many trips through the admissions cycle and many appearances of kids like the both of you. The lecturing on "maturity" by high school-age kids is always a highlight. To put it gently: think twice before you end up with your foot in your mouth. Not everyone here is an 18-year-old doe-eyed candidate.

    This is a forum. This is how things are discussed--publicly. If you want sugar coated answers in private, talk to your guidance counselor.

    If you find a little mild blunt force trauma to be too tough to take, I would caution you against USMA. Either of you. It's the military, not a youth leadership conference. There will be language and intensity you don't like.

    Lastly, if you have to be told the basics of being a self-directed learner (e.g. "Google it") then I already question your ability to succeed at a service academy. That goes for all candidates.
     
  12. Dixieland

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    Ashleigh, bookmark this page and keep an eye out for updates: http://portal.dean.usma.edu/admissions/Pages/SoutheastEventsMain.aspx When an admissions event comes to your area, grab your parents and go. There will be plenty of folks available to speak with your family, excellent videos, and folders of information to take home and look at.

    West Point likes go-getters. Jump on these obstacles and take action. You will see on the forum that plenty of candidates go to schools that don't employ class ranks and West Point has a way to work around that. Your SAT/ACT scores will figure in that so when the time comes to take these tests, prepare in advance and knock 'em dead!

    Finally, you end most of your posts by mentioning that your mother doesn't want to get involved with the public schools. What exactly does this mean?
     
  13. scoutpilot

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    It means that her mom won't let her take advantage of the option for homeschooled kids to play public sports or do public extracurriculars like JROTC.

    Not a good sign.
     
  14. 2Steaktacos

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    Though I admit I got a snarky little laugh at scouts initial post, I didnt quite catch the reasoning behind his following up comments. If someone posts something annoying or irrelevant to you, why not simply ignore it? This is a public forum but is used many different ways by many different posters. I didn't see a rule on the types, quality, nature, maturity, breadth of questions.

    You wrote: "This is a forum. This is how things are discussed--publicly. If you want sugar coated answers in private, talk to your guidance counselor." Why? if people post questions looking for sugar coated answers and you dont want to answer-then don't. However, there appears that there are others (at least two on this thread) who don't mind answering and without the additional discouraging negative comments that your responses tossed in.

    Think about how boring it would be if your negative responses effectively shut down a spectrum of comments and questions.

    On the other hand... occasionally you are funny.
     
  15. pfhsfco

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    competition

    Asheigh, your comment about "mom not wanting you to be involved with the pubic schools" raises a few red flags. I suggest that you go read some of the USNA, USMA, USAFA forum threads where candidates have posted their "stats" or resume/bio/profile info. I don't think you have a realistic view of the competition to get in. Homeschool students face some different challenges and admissions looks at that. I don't think SC allows homeschool students to participate in athletics at the public schools, but private schools do and there are travel / elite level teams that you can participate in and hopefully be captain of. The Civil Air Patrol has a lot of home school members and would give you leadership experience. However, you are going to have to step up and show maturity and mom is going to have to loosen the apron strings if this is the path for you. There are A LOT of public school influences at USMA and the prep schools. The military (even as an officer) is not all clean, sanitary and Holy Spirit-filled. Your ALO isn't going to be impressed by a lackluster resume if "mom doesn't want me to be involved with the public schools" is your best explanation.
     
  16. scoutpilot

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    People make annoying posts all the time, which we ignore. It's the fact that for the past two weeks, I open up the forum and see the same such "tell me everything" posts carpet-bombed across multiple subsections. It starts to look like the USMA2020 show, which makes the place all the harder for those seeking good info via smart questions.

    At some point, a corrective remark needs to be made. One such as "take up for yourself and then ask pertinent questions."

    We get a poster like this about every 6 months. Someone makes the correction and the forum remains easy to use for those of you on search of info and those of us who offer it in our spare time.
     
  17. another13mom

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    Ashleigh, one suggestion, if you are really interested in attending a service academy, you will have figured out how important math skills, grades and scores are. So, if you took all the time you've spent being "curious" on these forums reviewing math and science, your grades and eventually ACT/SAT scores, would be much much higher. You've indicated that you are barely passing algebra right now - put your time to use. Go to the library early, and go online, and instead of posting here, review www.khanacademy.org videos on pre-algebra and algebra. Then after your grades are in the "A" range, come back and spend time perusing this forum. Because, face it, if you fail basic algebra, your chances of getting into a service academy are much, much lower. Geometry, trig and calculus are coming up in the next few years. So get off the forum for a while, and get it done.
     
  18. ArmyStrong7

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    Okay, well let's get one thing straight I am 2 years out of high school and will be 20 in a few months. You are some grown man sitting behind a computer getting mad at a 14 year old girl for being a little too concerned about her future. I just felt like the way you approached her was inappropriate. I understand your frustration because I often got frustrated with seeing those posts frequently as well. All I am saying to you is to watch how you approach things because you don't know how it would hurt or discourage them. And don't get so offended when someone thinks that what you're doing is wrong. Also, to make things clear, this is my third time going through the admissions process so put me in the "doe eyed candidate" category. I lost that feeling a long time ago.
     
  19. scoutpilot

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    If you think that's what "getting mad" looks like, you're going to find the Army interesting to say the least, admission pending.
     
  20. ArmyStrong7

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    I already know what the military looks like. I've lived on Marine bases, I am currently in ROTC at my University, and *hint hint* I came from USMAPS being constantly surrounded by the Army, being put in multiple leadership positions, constantly surrounded by prior service men who have been deployed, had a 3 week basic training, and I lived at West Point for almost a year. I'm not on this thread for me, I'm on here for USMA2020. If you want to talk about my life, experiences, and background then you can send me a private message. As a matter of fact, why are you even bringing me up? We are talking about the way YOU, a GROWN man, are approaching a little 14 year old girl, not the way a 19 year old woman tried to stand up for her because she felt you were being a little disrespectful. If you were directing your previous comments to me then this conversation would have most definitely been held differently. There's a difference between approaching me and approaching her, especially since she just joined the forum. She really does not know any better and you just need to understand that. Like I've said previously: The way you approached this girl was unnecessary and immature. I'm not calling you immature, but your action was immature. I am not going to judge you based off your comments towards me and her, like the way you are judging us, because I was raised to leave the judging to someone higher. I am leaving this thread because you really are not worth wasting my time anymore and I don't want to continue to stir anything up. If you have a problem, then I ask you to respectfully approach me at a different time so we can discuss this problem. Other than that have a nice day.
     

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