VA Nominations

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  1. Letsdothis

    Letsdothis Member

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    I posted this in the nomination section, too. My son was invited for an interview with Sen Warner this week. Does anyone know how many interviews are offered? And how many nominations are awarded (to USNA)? Thanks! Hopefully he will get an interview with congressman as well. Those invites have not been sent yet.
     
  2. Coach62

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    Not sure how many interviews, I'm sure that varies with each Senator.

    As to the nominations, with both senators and congressmen it's the same. They are allowed 5 people in each of the academies at any given time. So if he had 5 in the Naval Academy last year, and one graduated, and one dropped out, then he has 2 potential nominations this year.

    I was told on one kid that only wanted the Navy, only applied to the Navy, actually got a nomination, but the congressman already had 5 in the academy and never bothered to tell him. Poor kid did not get in.
     
  3. AF6872

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    It is my understanding that each MOC is allowed ten nominations for each "charged" vacancy at any Academy. One appointment may be "charged" to the MOC and the other nine might be evaluated by the Academy for appointment. They could take all nine or none. There are 535 total members of Congress. There are approximately 1,100 entering each class. I think interviews are given for each applicant when they apply for nomination. We are a small State with two Senators and five Representatives and have had as many as fifteen USNA appointments in one year. Only found out my Daughter was "charged" when we received a flag from the Senator's office flown over the Capitol on her graduation date with a card from the Senator's office . She also only wanted Navy!
     
  4. usnabgo08

    usnabgo08 USNA 2008/BGO

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    Again, interviews depends on each MOC. Some do interviews, some do not. If a MOC does interviews, sometimes they interview all of them or only some of them. Sometimes interviews are result of the nomination applicant pool for that MOC -- if there are many applicants that might mean selected interviews -- if there is a smaller number of applicants it might mean they interview all -- and if there is an even smaller number, they might not do interviews....again, it depends!

    I don't know how Senator Warner (or his Academy Nominations director) runs their nomination process. For each vacancy at USNA (MOCs can have up to 5 MIDN at a given time), a MOC may submit a name of up to 10 candidates. If a MOC has more than one vacancy, he/she doesn't necessarily have to use any/all of them. Suppose a MOC has 2 vacancies for a particular year and decides to use both, then a total of 20 candidates can be submitted (10 per vacancy). The goal is to be one of the candidates on the list.
     
  5. Letsdothis

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    Thanks, all. The email states Sen Warner received 600+ applications. I doubt he is interviewing them all. It just says, "we consider you to be a top candidate." Just trying to figure out the odds of a nomination..... Hoping someone else will weigh in, as well.
     
  6. kinnem

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    Don't ever bother trying to figure the odds. It's a worthless exercise as there is never really any way to know or even get an inkling. Simply go from where you are and always do the best you can do to submit a strong application and nomination application.

    Certainly Warner will be interviewing more than 10 candidates and one might assume at least 20 or more. If you do the math you lose. Don't bother with the math... just bust it as wide open as you can.
     
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    usnabgo08 USNA 2008/BGO

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    Virginia is also a large state and could be holding interviews in multiple locations.
    Bottom line: you cannot gain certainty in an uncertain process.
     
  8. MammaMia

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    There was a thread last year that had a bit of information about this (http://www.serviceacademyforums.com...atorial-nom-applications-class-of-2019.39734/). DS interviewed with both Sen. Warner's committee and our congressman's committee (VA-08), was nominated by our congressman (with letters from both senators noting that they did not nominate him because he had a nomination from another member of the Congressional delegation) but ultimately I believe he was charged to some other source. (A second entry showed up under Nominations on his CIS page after I-Day.) Congratulations to your son for gaining an interview slot. He should prepare thoroughly (there are threads about likely interview questions) and then be prepared to wait until early to mid-December for news (which is when notifications went out last year). Best of luck.
     
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  9. kinnem

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    You might even wait until January since Jan. 31 is when the nomination slates are finally due at the academy.
     
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    Good point, kinnem. "Past returns do not necessarily predict future performance." Also, DS corrected me - he only interviewed with Sen. Warner's committee, but received his nomination from our representative (who has since retired).
     
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  11. kayaker

    kayaker Mother of USNA Midshipman (Class of 2019)

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    Congratulations to your son. After watching DS go through the process twice, all I can say is to tell him to do his best and hope for the best. DS interviewed with Senator Warner his first year but received a nomination from Senator Kaine the first year, in addition to receiving a nomination from our Congressman, in a different party. He did not receive an appointment that year. The year he reapplied, he interviewed with Senator Kaine's office and received a nomination from Senator Warner in addition to a nomination from our Congressman. Second time was a charm and he received an appointment. We don't know who he was "charged" to, and I don't know that it matters. From this all I learned is that members of Congress from the same party must coordinate their nominations. I imagine they are trying to put the largest number of their constituents in the pool, so they try to avoid multiple nominations when they can. They other thing I learned is that going through the process is such a huge growth experience for the candidates.
     
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    That's a heart sinker to read a double nomination and no appt. wow. What congressional district were/are you?
     
  13. kayaker

    kayaker Mother of USNA Midshipman (Class of 2019)

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    VA-10. I did not post to discourage anyone. Anyone in VA-10 should know what a competitive district it is. My point was that there really is no way of knowing how things are going to go, even with two nominations. I would rather you be encouraged by the final result -- on the second try, he got an appointment, he accepted it, and is now happily (mostly -- he is a Plebe after all!) ensconced in Bancroft Hall. Sure, he was disappointed when he was passed over the first year, but he got a year of college elsewhere under his belt and arrived in Annapolis with a bit of a head start academically. So it all turned out great for him. You just need to find your way with the cards you are dealt. That means having a good back up plan you can live with.
     
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    Oh, I got your message. I have actually been wondering that- if a kid completes a year of college do the credits transfer making a masters degree possible in 5ish years? We are working on plan B. It's hard to find one that suits after wanting USNA since middle school.

    And getting all those nominations from 10 is amazing. Glad we are farther south.....
     
  15. Sydney C.

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    I have actually been wondering that- if a kid completes a year of college do the credits transfer making a masters degree possible in 5ish years?
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    No sir, they do not. There was a great sticky on this page some time ago regarding re-applicants that answered many these types of questions but I can't say what happened to it. Perhaps one of the moderators can shed some light on that.

    Nothing transfers and everyone starts as a Plebe. However, there is ample opportunity to validate a number of courses and I direct your attention the following link on the USNA website where you can delve into this along with the answerws to many of the questions that pertain to those who have some college behind them: http://www.usna.edu/Academics/Candidate-Information/Course-Validation-Policy.php

    And while we're on the subject of nominations, just remember that you need a nomination for an appointment, but a nomination itself doesn't get you one.

    I wish your son the best in his pursuit.
     
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  16. 624mom

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    I'm sure this has been answered somewhere, my apologies, I've tried searching the site before asking...

    I'm confused by the "charged" thing. If your district only has one empty seat and someone from that district gets the appointment how do they "charge" you somewhere else?

    Again sorry if it's been answered.
     
  17. kinnem

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    Well, one way is that they charge you to the National Wait List (NWL). Or, if you also have a Presidential nomination as well maybe they charge you to that so they can take someone else of the congressional slate. I'm sure there are other ways as well.
     
  18. Letsdothis

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    No sir, they do not. There was a great sticky on this page some time ago regarding re-applicants that answered many these types of questions but I can't say what happened to it. Perhaps one of the moderators can shed some light on that.

    Nothing transfers and everyone starts as a Plebe. However, there is ample opportunity to validate a number of courses and I direct your attention the following link on the USNA website where you can delve into this along with the answerws to many of the questions that pertain to those who have some college behind them: http://www.usna.edu/Academics/Candidate-Information/Course-Validation-Policy.php

    And while we're on the subject of nominations, just remember that you need a nomination for an appointment, but a nomination itself doesn't get you one.

    I wish your son the best in his pursuit.[/QUOTE]


    Thanks.... We are well versed in most aspects of this process. Son has been preparing for four years now. The kid has done all he can physically and mentally do... Top 5%, solid test scores, tons of leadership/captaincies, great 2 varsity sport athlete, volunteering, dodmerb qualified. Now we wait. Which, is harder than we anticipated!
     
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    Thank you, it's such a complicated process. I'm appreciating all the knowledge on this board.
     
  20. usnabgo08

    usnabgo08 USNA 2008/BGO

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    As kinnem stated, there are many other ways USNA can charge nominating sources with appointments. However, the bottom line is that candidates and parents should not (and do not need to) worry about the charging process. The only requirement (or suggestion, really) is to apply to all available nominating sources...beyond that, it isn't in the candidate's total control.
     

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