Very frustrated

Livestrong35 said:
Honestly West Point admissions is the least efficient out of all the service academies. If they really tried they could tell everyone an answer by March 1st. They are very inconsiderate of the fact that people wait to hear from them and have other offers from other academies that are due an answer by May 1st.
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West Point is not the only academy still offering appts...no one in our district has heard from AF and there are plenty still awaiting word from Coast Guard. It is just the way the process works and as a re-applicant I would think you would be better prepared for the wait. Also, if how you are coming across attitude wise in this thread is how you come across to your RC, you may want to take a look at where the problem lies! Sometimes how you communicate can make all the difference in this process.
 
Maybe I am not allowed to say this...what is your USCGA deadline? You could wait until the day before the deadline--and really, really, really think about what you want to do. Do you want to be a Coastie and a Coast Guard officer or do you want to be a cadet and an Army officer? These are two entirely different experiences. Did you say, 'Yes!' to the Civilian Prep? Or do you really not want to spend a year that way to get to USMA?
I know that there are other applicants out there with a great option in the hand and maybe a great scholarship to another program (No Plan B's in my lexicon)--who will wait until the deadline to make a decision because they want to see all the cards.

However, know that every year--there are kids who accept that they are going to THAT University on THAT Scholarship who get accepted to USMA or USNA or USAFA at the last minute--and they take that appointment and move on smartly with their lives. I caution you; however, that you have to know that you want to go to the Coast Guard Academy before you hit accept and go down that path or you will be unhappy later. Clearly, you wanted it enough to successfully apply. Also, the Coast Guard has a tremendous variety of jobs (my son's school's head master was the previous commandant (or something like that) of the Coast Guard Academy--so we have learned more about it than I would have believed--and my guy did not apply--he does not want to be in the Coast Guard.)

So, good luck. You've got this--but don't be frustrated that someone 'less qualified' than you is getting an appointment. It is a whole candidate score--you have no idea what other people wrote in their essays to describe their lives. It is intangible.
 
Livestrong...No USMA Admissions--who are hard working men and women could not tell everyone by 1 March. They don't close the application until the end of February. They are not inefficient, they are maximizing the opportunities for test scores and CFT re-takes. Don't be mad at admissions. It is only a few more weeks. You are better than this.
 
KT--I skipped the Rocky and Rambo movies so the reference is lost on me--and all of today's kids.
All of the bright applicants with their desire to serve the Nation. Selfless service means not pulling down the others like crabs in a bucket.
Sometimes we see that in other cultures...like foreign cultures...but that sort of attitude doesn't work in our military.
 
DrMom said:
Livestrong...No USMA Admissions--who are hard working men and women could not tell everyone by 1 March. They don't close the application until the end of February. They are not inefficient, they are maximizing the opportunities for test scores and CFT re-takes. Don't be mad at admissions. It is only a few more weeks. You are better than this.
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Yeah but why give people more time to pass a CFA they failed when I passed it the first time? One of the two in my district who got in ahead of me in my district failed there CFA and didn't pass it until early February. They have not accepted their appointment yet and that is the hold up. West Point pushes people to finish their file who will get there stats up and seem to ignore people who really want to go like myself. USCGA's deadline was January 15th and I'm not sure but I think the others deadlines are sometime in January. USMA's should really get pushed up and admissions needs to identify people who really want to go.
 
Livestrong, did you get an LOA? If you did not get an LoA when you completed your application early, then perhaps you are not judged to be as substantial a candidate as you would like to be judged.
No one is holding up your appointment.
The kids who are pushed to finish the package have something that intrigues the RC.
You should assume that everyone wants to go.
Also, different colleges and universities have different deadlines that work for them.
Do not pull the others down. No one has your appointment and no one is making you wait.
 
Teragram said:
Livestrong35 said:
Honestly West Point admissions is the least efficient out of all the service academies. If they really tried they could tell everyone an answer by March 1st. They are very inconsiderate of the fact that people wait to hear from them and have other offers from other academies that are due an answer by May 1st.
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West Point is not the only academy still offering appts...no one in our district has heard from AF and there are plenty still awaiting word from Coast Guard. It is just the way the process works and as a re-applicant I would think you would be better prepared for the wait. Also, if how you are coming across attitude wise in this thread is how you come across to your RC, you may want to take a look at where the problem lies! Sometimes how you communicate can make all the difference in this process.
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No I am nothing but polite to my RC I am just venting my frustration with the system. I was not angry when I did not get in last year because I had low ACT scores. They said that was my only problem. I improved my ACT to a 31 and I was told that was the manic number anything above a 30. Now it does not seem to be good enough and it is almost April
 
Livestrong35 said:
Teragram said:
Livestrong35 said:
Honestly West Point admissions is the least efficient out of all the service academies. If they really tried they could tell everyone an answer by March 1st. They are very inconsiderate of the fact that people wait to hear from them and have other offers from other academies that are due an answer by May 1st.
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West Point is not the only academy still offering appts...no one in our district has heard from AF and there are plenty still awaiting word from Coast Guard. It is just the way the process works and as a re-applicant I would think you would be better prepared for the wait. Also, if how you are coming across attitude wise in this thread is how you come across to your RC, you may want to take a look at where the problem lies! Sometimes how you communicate can make all the difference in this process.
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No I am nothing but polite to my RC I am just venting my frustration with the system. I was not angry when I did not get in last year because I had low ACT scores. They said that was my only problem. I improved my ACT to a 31 and I was told that was the manic number anything above a 30. Now it does not seem to be good enough and it is almost April
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Unfortunately, every year it changes and month to month it changes with candidates submitting new test scores, achievements, etc. So a 31 could have been the magic number until that one candidate took a late ACT and got a 34 edging you out on slate. That is exactly what happened to DD and is why when considering AOG we asked if this could possibly happen again next year. She was told that as a sponsored prep she DOES NOT have to win her slate just get a nomination. Maybe that is why your RC made the suggestion.
 
DrMom said:
Livestrong, did you get an LOA? If you did not get an LoA when you completed your application early, then perhaps you are not judged to be as substantial a candidate as you would like to be judged.
No one is holding up your appointment.
The kids who are pushed to finish the package have something that intrigues the RC.
You should assume that everyone wants to go.
Also, different colleges and universities have different deadlines that work for them.
Do not pull the others down. No one has your appointment and no one is making you wait.
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Yes they are because if they decline I get in. But the system is messed up because RC's and the admissions board get obsessed with the wrong things
 
Teragram said:
Livestrong35 said:
Teragram said:
Livestrong35 said:
Honestly West Point admissions is the least efficient out of all the service academies. If they really tried they could tell everyone an answer by March 1st. They are very inconsiderate of the fact that people wait to hear from them and have other offers from other academies that are due an answer by May 1st.
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West Point is not the only academy still offering appts...no one in our district has heard from AF and there are plenty still awaiting word from Coast Guard. It is just the way the process works and as a re-applicant I would think you would be better prepared for the wait. Also, if how you are coming across attitude wise in this thread is how you come across to your RC, you may want to take a look at where the problem lies! Sometimes how you communicate can make all the difference in this process.
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No I am nothing but polite to my RC I am just venting my frustration with the system. I was not angry when I did not get in last year because I had low ACT scores. They said that was my only problem. I improved my ACT to a 31 and I was told that was the manic number anything above a 30. Now it does not seem to be good enough and it is almost April
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Unfortunately, every year it changes and month to month it changes with candidates submitting new test scores, achievements, etc. So a 31 could have been the magic number until that one candidate took a late ACT and got a 34 edging you out on slate. That is exactly what happened to DD and is why when considering AOG we asked if this could possibly happen again next year. She was told that as a sponsored prep she DOES NOT have to win her slate just get a nomination. Maybe that is why your RC made the suggestion.
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The problem I have with Civil prep is I have already taken Calc 1 and 2. What would I go and get an associates degree at whatever prep school I went to? West a point says they favor reapplicants and that is obliviously not the case.
 
Livestrong35 said:
Teragram said:
Livestrong35 said:
Teragram said:
Livestrong35 said:
Honestly West Point admissions is the least efficient out of all the service academies. If they really tried they could tell everyone an answer by March 1st. They are very inconsiderate of the fact that people wait to hear from them and have other offers from other academies that are due an answer by May 1st.
Click to expand...
West Point is not the only academy still offering appts...no one in our district has heard from AF and there are plenty still awaiting word from Coast Guard. It is just the way the process works and as a re-applicant I would think you would be better prepared for the wait. Also, if how you are coming across attitude wise in this thread is how you come across to your RC, you may want to take a look at where the problem lies! Sometimes how you communicate can make all the difference in this process.
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No I am nothing but polite to my RC I am just venting my frustration with the system. I was not angry when I did not get in last year because I had low ACT scores. They said that was my only problem. I improved my ACT to a 31 and I was told that was the manic number anything above a 30. Now it does not seem to be good enough and it is almost April
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Unfortunately, every year it changes and month to month it changes with candidates submitting new test scores, achievements, etc. So a 31 could have been the magic number until that one candidate took a late ACT and got a 34 edging you out on slate. That is exactly what happened to DD and is why when considering AOG we asked if this could possibly happen again next year. She was told that as a sponsored prep she DOES NOT have to win her slate just get a nomination. Maybe that is why your RC made the suggestion.
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The problem I have with Civil prep is I have already taken Calc 1 and 2. What would I go and get an associates degree at whatever prep school I went to? West a point says they favor reapplicants and that is obliviously not the case.
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Actually as an AOG you could take a semester off and go to NWP 1st semester for very little financially after scholarships and then back to whatever school you are attending now for second semester. These prep schools know what it takes to get appointments and maybe they would be able to pinpoint what about your application is lacking (it may be something non academic related). If West Point is truly your top choice isn't it worth a shot? DD is giving up a 4 year ROTC scholarship to her top 3 schools to "go all in".
 
So let me get this right... you are frustrated and appear angry that you haven't heard from USMA but they have been up front from day 1 that you would hear by April 15th?

You have no idea what admissions is looking at. I understand you are frustrated, but as a 19 year old college freshman you have the knowledge and authority to know admissions focused on the wrong things? You know what the other candidates full packages were? If you know for a fact that you are behind them on a slate, guess what? Their package was stronger. So what if your RC wrote a mediocre eval of you? Or your other prof recommendations were just meh...? Guess what, regardless of ACT, 4.0, or perfect CFA, you won't be getting an appointment. Reapplicants have a distinct advantage. There are WCS points available for succeeding at college level course work a high school can't get. So once again, even with those points, you are still behind them on the slate.

I can appreciate frustration. But if this is your attitude frustrated and venting... you will hate Army life and struggle as a leader. It's an entire career of hurry up and wait with little to no control over so many things. I wish you luck, I really do. But step away from the keyboard, you are not helping your case one single bit. Go blow off steam on a run or lift some weights.
 
Seems more like a troll on this page because I find it hard to believe there is someone this self centered and shallow has a shot at the academy. Just my two cents. If not a troll and if the OP gets in....learning patience and grace will be critical...
 
OP, you never answered my question.

What is your goal? WP or Army officer?

You have received advice from some of the best minds on this forum, but I do not sense any of it sinking in.
 
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AROTC-dad said:
OP, you never answered my question.

What is your goal? WP or Army officer?

You have received advice from some of the best minds on this forum, but I do not sense any of it sinking in.
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I hear this all the time and I want to be an officer in a military branch. I really want to go to an academy because I like the smaller class sizes and the fact that professors will actually know my name. In my own personal opinion I do not like ROTC because it is not as intense as an academy and it is harder to get the branch I want out of college. West Point prepares people best so yes I want to be an officer but I want to do it through an academy
 
JWP said:
Seems more like a troll on this page because I find it hard to believe there is someone this self centered and shallow has a shot at the academy. Just my two cents. If not a troll and if the OP gets in....learning patience and grace will be critical...
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How am I self centered?
 
Livestrong35 said:
JWP said:
Seems more like a troll on this page because I find it hard to believe there is someone this self centered and shallow has a shot at the academy. Just my two cents. If not a troll and if the OP gets in....learning patience and grace will be critical...
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How am I self centered?
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Self awareness is a tremendous skill set to learn...this is my last comment on this post.
 
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