What does board qualified mean?

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  1. midwannabe

    midwannabe Member

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    I received a letter from the Academy saying "The admissions board has reviewed your record and determined that you are board qualified for an appointment to the U.S. Naval Academy Class of 2015." Anyone knows what this means?
     
  2. usna1985

    usna1985 USNA Alumnus

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    It means you are scholastically qualified -- a combination of grades, scores, ECAs, leadership, etc. That plus passing your CFA and medical makes you triple Q'ed. That plus a nom makes you eligible to compete for an appointment or, in some cases, qualified for an appointment.
     
  3. petermcd123

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    I received this letter as well but I know I passed my medical exam, and I have not received a letter saying I failed the CFA. I also have a Presidential Nomination. What else do I have to do to get an appointment?
     
  4. jennyp

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    You fall into that pool of people who are 3 Q with a nom. Not all of those will receive appointments. You are competing with other 3Q'd candidates.....first within your nomination source, then if not selected there, you are competing within the national pool of candidates.

    Hopefully you are trying for more nominations than just the Presidential. What else do you have to do to get an appointment? Nothing else you can do if you are satisfied with your package. You COULD re-take the SAT/ACT, CFA, add in any significant honors or achievements you may have received since you completed your packet.
     
  5. petermcd123

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    I called the admissions office today and they told me board qualified meant 3Q'd

    So I take that as awesome news
     
  6. KMC

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    Okay, so if a candidate only received a "scholastically qualified" letter, and not a "board qualified" letter, does that mean they may not have passed the CFA?
     
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    are the terms used interchangeably?
     
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    KMC - I think they will tell you if you have not passed the CFA. I have always heard that no response means you passed. Though that does not automatically mean that the score was good. You can always call admissions to find out for sure.

    gonavy2015 - I don't believe that they are. A board qualified letter means that one is 3'qd while a scholastically qualified letter is just for grades and eca's and the like.
     
  9. Whistle Pig

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    Scholastically qualified does not include being physically or medically qualified. However scholastically qualified also means more than being academically qualified. It includes grades, test scores, ECs, athletics, community service, etc.

    Thus being 3Qed means being qualified scholastically, physically, medically qualified, and it is at this point that one becomes eligible to compete for an appointment upon receipt of a nomination.

    On a disparate note, the nomination is not dependent upon being 3Qed or qualified otherwise, but may often take this information into consideration as these decisions are being made in the nominator's office. But not necessarily so.
     
  10. RobMD

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    Unfortunately, My understanding is that once an applicant is 3 Q'd they are no longer eligible for Naps or Foundation grant. Meaning once you are deemed "qualified", it is all (acceptance letter) or nothing. To me, this seems contrary to logic. I know there are some disadvantaged students that given the opportunity will rise, but, there are also many middle class kids that have proven themselves and are a random pick (my opinion), from living their dream.
     
  11. Whistle Pig

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    You get it. The logic of it generally is couched in other things. Of course it makes no sense generally that inferior candidates will after a year of remediation become superior to competitors who were such just a year before. But that's the story, and they're sticking to it. .It's about controlling appointment slots and getting them out of the purview and control of the political and merit structure. There are anomalies, but that's not it generally.
     
  12. hawk

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    This "scholastic" vs "board qualified" vs 3Q sure is confusing with USNA. :smile:

    DS has been medically qualified (per DODMERB portal) since July, Solid CFA (per BGO) since NASS, and "scholastically qualified" (per USNA letter) since early October. Yet no other indication of status from USNA either via letter or portal.

    At this point should candidates try to confirm they are 3Q? Or just trust that the combination of the above translates to 3Q? :smile:
     
  13. petermcd123

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    Just call, it cant hurt

    Thats what I ave done
     
  14. Mongo

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    Relatively speaking, those who are 3Qed but not offered appointments are, by definition, minimally qualified. In relation to others, their academics, extracurriculars, and leadership potential are not quite up to the standards of those who are offered appointments. Your assumptions are based on the premise that all those below the 3Qed line are offered NAPS/Foundation. This is not true. Those who are offered the prep programs are generally those with outstanding extracurriculars and/or leadership, but specific glaring academic defencies. Once these deficiencies are rectified, these candidates become extremely competitive, perhaps even into the national pool range.
     
  15. Whistle Pig

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    I believe this calls for more explanation.

    1. There are many 3Qed candidates who are far more than "minimally qualified," and in fact are superior to some, perhaps many who are offered appointments. While it may be that these are less qualified w/in their MOC or other nominating ranks (altho not necessarily), it is misleading to suggest that these are generally less qualified in general.

    2. I'm not sure the OP is assuming that "all those below the 3Qed line are offered NAPS/Foundation." I didn't read it that way at all.

    3. To suggest that NAPS/Foundation students, "Once these deficiencies are rectifice, these candidates become extremely competitive, perhaps even into the national pool range." is pure poppy-cock, ludicrous.

    While the system is what it is, let's not fabricate or mythologize this one, please.
     
  16. USNA2015Candidate

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    Here's a question for you guys:

    I too have received a letter saying that I'm board qualified. However, I live in a very competitive district and I may not receive a nomination. If I reapply next year will the admissions board look more favorably on my application since I was 3'qd the year before?
     
  17. Mongo

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    No poppycock, no fabrications, no myths. The goal of the Admissions Department is to offer appointments to the 1500 most qualified candidates. With the exceptions of a few congressional districts where the qualified candidates are not quite up to par, they succeed.

    One of the primary goals of the Admissions Board is to ascertain that a candidate is capable of succeeding in Chemistry, Physics, and Calculus. For one reason or another, some candidates with otherwise outstanding packages are unable to demonstrate this capability. A year of prep school alleviates this uncertainty. When this new improved academic profile is factored into the overall record, the increase is dramatic.

    A generalization more true than not is that the 3Qed candidate who does not receive an appointment is marginal as compared to his successful peers. The typical NAPS/Foundation candidate is academically weaker but has a much stronger EC/Leadership package.
     
  18. RobMD

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    I do not follow your reasoning.... My arguement is that if an applicant is qualified (a definition used by academy), they are acceptable by the standards currently given. My confusion is that if you already have these qualified individuals (proven commodity), would'nt a year of prep school would make them superstars? In otherr words, If given the opportunity they would most certainly rise above and beyond the current unqualified applicants. This process is used in athletics in every University. I believe they call it red shirting.
     
  19. Mongo

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    Again, relatively speaking, compared to the successful candidates, those that are unsuccessful have weaker packages across the board. A year of prep school would make them strong academically but still weak in EC and leadership. Whereas, the typical NAPS student, with a year extra of academics, would then be strong in all three areas.

    Additionally, the purpose of NAPS is to prepare those who need academic extra help. It would be a tough sell to GAO if those who attended were already academically qualified. Foundation entry requirements, since it is private money, is less restrictive. A weaker qualified candidate who did not receive an appointment but had strong ECs and Leadership might possibly be given the opportunity to take advantage of this route.

    in re redshirting, NCAA would frown heavily on sending academically qualified athletes to NAPS and allow them to play their designated sport there.
     
  20. RobMD

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    And a year of prep school would'nt allow an already qualified applicant more time to work on EC's and leadership?
     

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