What does CPR even mean at this point?

[DrMom]

@TexasSoccerMom Same here. We knew the ALO because he had presented at Service Academies Night at #3's school each year (another crusty alumnus a very nice man but because of the age differences he always managed to make the Air Force and USAFA seem not very exciting--which is a shame, there is a lot of really cool and amazing stuff there). He interviewed #3 at school. #3 sent him a thank you note when he received his USAFA appointment but our area is so flooded with kids applying to SAs that the liaisons are busy with their day jobs.

@WonderGirl1965 @Pineapples11 I would just like to add that I might seem like a tool to judge the volunteeer BGO for his efforts to school my kid on accountability v. responsibility--but in our lives this is a concept that we talk about all the time. I quote LTG Mike Flynn a few times a week, "There is no 'I' in team but there are three 'I's in responsibility." (There are only two "I"s in accountability, which is a shame...because you cannot share accountability.)

 

[TheBrownViking]

Our son had an amazing BGO. She emailed every few weeks to check on status of application. She set up meetings with candidates to practice and prepare for interviews. She was very thorough and asked a lot of questions of son. Our whole family was impressed with her professionalism and attention to detail. Even though our boy got the TWE if we could give a yelp review for son's BGO she'd get 5 stars. We never met son's Alo. He met son for his interview at a coffee shop, submitted his report a few days later and son has never heard from him again. Both did their volunteer job. One just went way above and beyond.

Are you TX-22? I think I had the same BGO if you are and if we're talking about the same person, I have to agree! My BGO was absolutely amazing and very helpful and responsive with even the most specific questions. I felt very comfortable asking her about things I didn't fully understand or what I had to do to make my application better. She was also great at helping with my family who were a little apprehensive.

 

[MichUSNA2021hopefulparent]

Even that doesn't make a ton of sense, I maxed 4 events, and I know my ACT is well above the 75th percentile of past classes.

@Davy Read, swakrow is a current BGO. He just stated in a previous post in this thread that he is 4th generation USNA. So saying his post about CFA and ACT /SAT scores doesn't make a ton of sense,...well, that doesn't make a ton of sense.

 

[DrMom]

All, are the BGO's required to do the interview at the house and interview the parents/surviving parents/available parent/s? I just wondered if it was an USNA thing or a personal preference of the volunteer.

 

[bfritz2021]

All, are the BGO's required to do the interview at the house and interview the parents/surviving parents/available parent/s? I just wondered if it was an USNA thing or a personal preference of the volunteer.

My BGO came to my house and did a "dual interview" if you will. He had a nice discussion with my parents and allowed them to ask any and all questions while I was in a different room. After, I was brought in and had the official interview conducted with my BGO. I'm from MD-07 and I know a lot of the kids in my area also had their BGO come to their houses. Hope this helps!

 

[shock-n-awe]

BGO came to our house. After a brief conversation in our entry way with my wife and i, she went into our living room and spoke with DS for two hours. He said it went extremely well, and was very informative.

 

[MichUSNA2021hopefulparent]

All, are the BGO's required to do the interview at the house and interview the parents/surviving parents/available parent/s? I just wondered if it was an USNA thing or a personal preference of the volunteer.

My DS' BGO did the interview at his law office.

 

[MichUSNA2021hopefulparent]

My DS' BGO did the interview at his law office.

My wife and I were also invited to the interview and sat in for the first hour. Second hour was DS and BGO alone.

 

[Trackgirl1999]

All, are the BGO's required to do the interview at the house and interview the parents/surviving parents/available parent/s? I just wondered if it was an USNA thing or a personal preference of the volunteer.

After rushing to put up the Christmas tree and holiday decorations to make the home appear festive in early December (and a lot of cleaning), the BGO stated he will meet candidates at a local Starbucks if candidates feel embarrassed about their home.

 

[TexasSoccerMom]

Our son had an amazing BGO. She emailed every few weeks to check on status of application. She set up meetings with candidates to practice and prepare for interviews. She was very thorough and asked a lot of questions of son. Our whole family was impressed with her professionalism and attention to detail. Even though our boy got the TWE if we could give a yelp review for son's BGO she'd get 5 stars. We never met son's Alo. He met son for his interview at a coffee shop, submitted his report a few days later and son has never heard from him again. Both did their volunteer job. One just went way above and beyond.

Are you TX-22? I think I had the same BGO if you are and if we're talking about the same person, I have to agree! My BGO was absolutely amazing and very helpful and responsive with even the most specific questions. I felt very comfortable asking her about things I didn't fully understand or what I had to do to make my application better. She was also great at helping with my family who were a little apprehensive.

Yes, Texas 22. She was amazing.

Are you still cpr? Good luck to you! Son got a USAFA nomination from Texas 22.

 

[TheBrownViking]

Our son had an amazing BGO. She emailed every few weeks to check on status of application. She set up meetings with candidates to practice and prepare for interviews. She was very thorough and asked a lot of questions of son. Our whole family was impressed with her professionalism and attention to detail. Even though our boy got the TWE if we could give a yelp review for son's BGO she'd get 5 stars. We never met son's Alo. He met son for his interview at a coffee shop, submitted his report a few days later and son has never heard from him again. Both did their volunteer job. One just went way above and beyond.

Are you TX-22? I think I had the same BGO if you are and if we're talking about the same person, I have to agree! My BGO was absolutely amazing and very helpful and responsive with even the most specific questions. I felt very comfortable asking her about things I didn't fully understand or what I had to do to make my application better. She was also great at helping with my family who were a little apprehensive.

Yes, Texas 22. She was amazing.

Are you still cpr? Good luck to you! Son got a USAFA nomination from Texas 22.

Yes I'm still CPR. Good luck to your son - I got a USNA nomination and I'm checking my email 100 times a day.

 

[Pineapples11]

haha my BGO met me in a cracker barrel, has been very distant ever since but on the flip side I have not reached out to him so..............Still CPR in MD-01!! fingers crossed..

 

[TexasSoccerMom]

Our son had an amazing BGO. She emailed every few weeks to check on status of application. She set up meetings with candidates to practice and prepare for interviews. She was very thorough and asked a lot of questions of son. Our whole family was impressed with her professionalism and attention to detail. Even though our boy got the TWE if we could give a yelp review for son's BGO she'd get 5 stars. We never met son's Alo. He met son for his interview at a coffee shop, submitted his report a few days later and son has never heard from him again. Both did their volunteer job. One just went way above and beyond.

Are you TX-22? I think I had the same BGO if you are and if we're talking about the same person, I have to agree! My BGO was absolutely amazing and very helpful and responsive with even the most specific questions. I felt very comfortable asking her about things I didn't fully understand or what I had to do to make my application better. She was also great at helping with my family who were a little apprehensive.

Yes, Texas 22. She was amazing.

Are you still cpr? Good luck to you! Son got a USAFA nomination from Texas 22.

Yes I'm still CPR. Good luck to your son - I got a USNA nomination and I'm checking my email 100 times a day.

Congratulations on your nomination and best of luck to you! Hang in there! Texas 22 is very competitive. Lots of very bright shining stars. Son was only one from his school to get a nomination and is still cpr for USAFA.

 

[USNAredrock]

All, are the BGO's required to do the interview at the house and interview the parents/surviving parents/available parent/s? I just wondered if it was an USNA thing or a personal preference of the volunteer.

I live about 3 hours from my BGO, so when I was in the area I went to his house and interviewed. The interview only lasted about 45 minutes and included my parents and I.

 

[USMA 1994]

As I looked through this post, it seems most people are missing how the process works. The admission's process is closely tied to the nomination process and qualified individuals must be "slotted" against a nomination. This is not a rack and stack process like normal colleges where the top 1500 individuals get an offer and 1200 accept. It does no good to try and compare yourself against other stats on the board because you do not know the stats of the individuals on your slate. Every year there are individuals who have higher test scores or Gpa's that get past over based on how the process works. There is no point to debate the fairness of the system. It is described in the Federal Code and would take Congress's action to modify it.

The majority of individuals who have received offers are ranked by the academy at the top of their nomination slate, be it congressional, presidential, service connected. Some slates have not yet been resolved due to medical or waiting on the individual to accept. If you are #2 on your slate and the top individual has not accepted or is pending a waiver, then you have a chance to get the offer from your slate. Once all the slates are resolved, the academy will start pulling individuals off the NWL to finish the class, but if you were not ranked near the the top of your slate, say #2 or maybe #3, then the likelihood of being ranked in the top 150 of everyone else is pretty low. They can then pull additional appointees after the first 150 to fill all of the other demographics to fill the class. Note, the NWL and AA do not necessarily follow in exact order. If a #2 on an MOC slate that has a WCS that is in the top 20 of the NWL, they may be offered before all the slates are resolved.

The admissions department is pretty motivated to complete the class, but the have to stay inside the established guidelines to do that. There are a ton of moving pieces and no one knows the exact details of how it works behind the scenes.

If you are CPR, you still have a chance and should not give up hope but you should also make sure you have a Plan B if things do not go your way.

 

[USMA 1994]

You will get two schools of thought on the CFA. If you consider the mathematical impact of the CFA on your WCS, you can see where the advice about 1 or 2 more points not affecting the overall process. The CFA is a small percent of the entire WCS and a slight change in that percent will have little to no impact on your overall score. You also have the other school who believe that you should strive to max everything and keep trying till you get there.

Like everything in life, the best answer is probably somewhere in the middle. If you are satisfied with your CFA, performed at the level you think you should have, and have a pretty good score, then you should focus your efforts elsewhere. If your score is passing but sub-par, then you should work on increasing your fitness level and improve your score. My DD had a slower run time but same or higher scores in all other events when she took it the second time as a re-applicant. We actually had the conversation that taking it again was not worth the effort to increase her score slightly and her time would better be served focusing on the end of her first semester of college.

 

[TheBrownViking]

Our son had an amazing BGO. She emailed every few weeks to check on status of application. She set up meetings with candidates to practice and prepare for interviews. She was very thorough and asked a lot of questions of son. Our whole family was impressed with her professionalism and attention to detail. Even though our boy got the TWE if we could give a yelp review for son's BGO she'd get 5 stars. We never met son's Alo. He met son for his interview at a coffee shop, submitted his report a few days later and son has never heard from him again. Both did their volunteer job. One just went way above and beyond.

Are you TX-22? I think I had the same BGO if you are and if we're talking about the same person, I have to agree! My BGO was absolutely amazing and very helpful and responsive with even the most specific questions. I felt very comfortable asking her about things I didn't fully understand or what I had to do to make my application better. She was also great at helping with my family who were a little apprehensive.

Yes, Texas 22. She was amazing.

Are you still cpr? Good luck to you! Son got a USAFA nomination from Texas 22.

Yes I'm still CPR. Good luck to your son - I got a USNA nomination and I'm checking my email 100 times a day.

Congratulations on your nomination and best of luck to you! Hang in there! Texas 22 is very competitive. Lots of very bright shining stars. Son was only one from his school to get a nomination and is still cpr for USAFA.

Well I hope all goes well for him! I hope they take the strength of our district into account also - if they do - I think your son has a great chance of getting in! Best of luck.

 

[Old Navy BGO]

Two things :

1) On CFA -- try to max it (rarely done, but a good aspiration). It is not a pass /fail thing. I recently heard from CGO that the decision on who to pick within a slate has come down to CFA performance from time to time. IF you don't think you did your best, redo it !

2) On BGO interviews --purely a personal preference. I do my interviews at my office. Most candidates arrive and interview by themselves, but I give them my card and encourage them to have their parents call me if there are any questions. Some do, some don't. My interview usually includes a discussion of parental/family support and encouragement, trying to identify either family pressure or family reluctance/discouragement. In both cases, I emphasize that this is a personal decision, they are young adults , and have to decide what is right for them.

 

[ktnatalk]

if you were not ranked near the the top of your slate, say #2 or maybe #3, then the likelihood of being ranked in the top 150 of everyone else is pretty low.

Based purely on my limited observation and suspicion, I agree with this from USMA1994, except a few specific districts in Md/Va/Fl/Ca that I suspect they may select (way) beyond #2 and #3.

 

[ktnatalk]

Are you TX-22? I think I had the same BGO if you are and if we're talking about the same person, I have to agree!

You maybe speaking of the same BGO. Just want to point out that number of BGOs in one district depends on the workload and the availability of BGOs (alumni, parents of alumni, etc VOLUNTEERS) and it is coordinated by admissions and the Area BGO Coordinator. In a high interest area there are BGOs being assigned to only a handful of high schools, or even less.