There are a lot of fish in the sea, or to paraphrase ... there are a lot of companies on the ocean.
Don't know if they still do it, but we used to post all our rejection letters on our doors. Some kids had enough to wallpaper their room with. Its a tough market out there right now for deckies but there are jobs to be had. He may not get his dream job, or even a particularly good one but if he keeps looking he will eventually find one. I've met more than one recent grad sailing unlicensed which is no shame either. A paycheck is a paycheck is a paycheck.
Personally, I wouldn't sail for MSC anyway. Its good for seatime and LOTS of it, but it would be pretty far down my list of companies.
Is the class of 2012 already receiving offers? Curious of how that is timed with license examinations and graduation being in June. I have heard from my plebe ( I know, I know, not exactly what he needs to be thinking about now) that seniors and recents grads are having a difficult time. He may be speaking only of deckies, not sure.
Is the class of 2012 already receiving offers? Curious of how that is timed with license examinations and graduation being in June. I have heard from my plebe ( I know, I know, not exactly what he needs to be thinking about now) that seniors and recents grads are having a difficult time. He may be speaking only of deckies, not sure.
You could say all of the above. I'm not aware of any official "definition", but I suppose I would say anywhere where limited licenses are the norm vice unlimited.
Nepotism certainly helps but I have met pilots who started deep sea, tugs and right out of school. I think it is usually a three year program as a trainee.Where does a harbor pilot or bay pilot fit in?
Are they considered maritime jobs where KP grads can fulfill their service requirement?
I would assume such a job requires an unlimited license, as well as a lot on OTJ training before one meets the total job requirements, but do they use "interns" or "trainees" (not sure if that is the right word) from the maritime schools, or is this industry strictly nepotism et al?
Nepotism certainly helps but I have met pilots who started deep sea, tugs and right out of school. I think it is usually a three year program as a trainee.
Our DS(2012 Deck) is telling us that MSC is only looking to hire engineers this year so he doesn't think that he will receive a job offer from them this Spring. Any feedback on this?
To get into their apprenticeship program the SF bar pilots only require a masters license, but it doesn't need to be unlimited. They do require at least two years’ command or piloting experience and a federal pilotage endorsement. The command time requirement can be satisfied on vessels less than 1600 gross tons. Many of the San Francisco pilots are former tugboat captains with little or no experience on deep sea unlimited tonnage ships.San Francisco requires Unlimited Tonnage, Unlimited Oceans Masters ticket prior to applying for an apprenticeship spot.