USNA Class of 2027 Waiting and Speculating

Alchemist · Apr 12, 2023

Coffee22 said:
By population NJ seems to be heavily represented on SAF, or they're churning out incredible candidates.

Rank Population State Appointments
1
39,538,223
California 10
2
29,145,505
Texas 12
3
21,538,187
Florida 7
4
20,201,249
New York 1
5
13,002,700
Pennsylvania 4
6
12,812,508
Illinois 7
7
11,799,448
Ohio 5
8
10,711,908
Georgia 4
9
10,439,388
North Carolina 8
10
10,077,331
Michigan 3
11
9,288,994
New Jersey 10
12
8,631,393
Virginia 6
13
7,705,281
Washington 3
14
7,151,502
Arizona 1
15
7,029,917
Massachusetts 2
16
6,910,840
Tennessee
17
6,785,528
Indiana 1
18
6,177,224
Maryland 5
19
6,154,913
Missouri 1
20
5,893,718
Wisconsin 1
21
5,773,714
Colorado 1
22
5,706,494
Minnesota 3
23
5,118,425
South Carolina 1
24
5,024,279
Alabama
25
4,657,757
Louisiana 2
26
4,505,836
Kentucky 1
27
4,237,256
Oregon
28
3,959,353
Oklahoma 3
29
3,605,944
Connecticut
30
3,271,616
Utah 1
31
3,190,369
Iowa 1
32
3,104,614
Nevada 1
33
3,011,524
Arkansas 2
34
2,961,279
Mississippi
35
2,937,880
Kansas 2
36
2,117,522
New Mexico 1
37
1,961,504
Nebraska 1
38
1,839,106
Idaho
39
1,793,716
West Virginia
40
1,455,271
Hawaii 1
41
1,377,529
New Hampshire 3
42
1,362,359
Maine 1
43
1,097,379
Rhode Island
44
1,084,225
Montana
45
989,948
Delaware 1
46
886,667
South Dakota
47
779,094
North Dakota
48
733,391
Alaska
49
643,077
Vermont
50
576,851
Wyoming
Reported to Date 117

Interesting that NJ is not even in the top 10 populus states:

IronmanDaremo · Apr 12, 2023

MD and VA are highly competitive and also have a lot of appointments.

Proximity to the Academy and proximity to DC. Heavy on Government employees (both civil servant and contractor), and tons of military personnel, either active duty or retired, which gives access to other nom sources. So their kids have more insight into the SAs, and can easily travel to Annapolis to see the campus. Plus, they will be close to home. Schools are really strong, and offer higher level, tough classes. And strong athletics for smaller states (by population).

For example with my kid: we're within town liberty radius, are a generational military family (multiple Naval officers), and I went to NAPS, and grew up in Annapolis as a teenager, so had a lot to share with him about the place. He decided that was what he wanted to do, and went after it.

Alchemist · Apr 12, 2023

Coffee22 said:
By population NJ seems to be heavily represented on SAF, or they're churning out incredible candidates.

Rank Population State Appointments
1
39,538,223
California 10
2
29,145,505
Texas 12
3
21,538,187
Florida 7
4
20,201,249
New York 1
5
13,002,700
Pennsylvania 4
6
12,812,508
Illinois 7
7
11,799,448
Ohio 5
8
10,711,908
Georgia 4
9
10,439,388
North Carolina 8
10
10,077,331
Michigan 3
11
9,288,994
New Jersey 10
12
8,631,393
Virginia 6
13
7,705,281
Washington 3
14
7,151,502
Arizona 1
15
7,029,917
Massachusetts 2
16
6,910,840
Tennessee
17
6,785,528
Indiana 1
18
6,177,224
Maryland 5
19
6,154,913
Missouri 1
20
5,893,718
Wisconsin 1
21
5,773,714
Colorado 1
22
5,706,494
Minnesota 3
23
5,118,425
South Carolina 1
24
5,024,279
Alabama
25
4,657,757
Louisiana 2
26
4,505,836
Kentucky 1
27
4,237,256
Oregon
28
3,959,353
Oklahoma 3
29
3,605,944
Connecticut
30
3,271,616
Utah 1
31
3,190,369
Iowa 1
32
3,104,614
Nevada 1
33
3,011,524
Arkansas 2
34
2,961,279
Mississippi
35
2,937,880
Kansas 2
36
2,117,522
New Mexico 1
37
1,961,504
Nebraska 1
38
1,839,106
Idaho
39
1,793,716
West Virginia
40
1,455,271
Hawaii 1
41
1,377,529
New Hampshire 3
42
1,362,359
Maine 1
43
1,097,379
Rhode Island
44
1,084,225
Montana
45
989,948
Delaware 1
46
886,667
South Dakota
47
779,094
North Dakota
48
733,391
Alaska
49
643,077
Vermont
50
576,851
Wyoming
Reported to Date 117

Like long time moderators on this forum keep reminding us, there is no rhyme or reason to the Navy's selection process.

Shellyeah · Apr 12, 2023

sonar said:
Hopefully this is why, i’m still CPR in VA

We're still CPR in VA as well!

Coffee22 · Apr 12, 2023

Indeed. And that NY is 4th and only reporting 1, thus far. Maybe slate rectification is delayed. Possibly by medical?

Alchemist said:
Interesting that NJ is not even in the top 10 populus states:

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MSMarine · Apr 12, 2023

Still CPR in Mississippi for District 2, Classmate of mine got into USNAPS but turned it down for West Point.

Coffee22 · Apr 12, 2023

Does NJ typically post high numbers here?

DDCopilot said:
Sure! IL typically reports 7 or 8 appointments (low 5, high 10), with nothing consistent on waitlist. I see 7 reported so far this cycle.

Alchemist · Apr 12, 2023

IronmanDaremo said:
MD and VA are highly competitive and also have a lot of appointments.

Proximity to the Academy and proximity to DC. Heavy on Government employees (both civil servant and contractor), and tons of military personnel, either active duty or retired. So their kids have more insight into the SAs, and can easily travel to Annapolis to see the campus. Plus, they will be close to home. Schools are really strong, and offer higher level, tough classes. And strong athletics for smaller states (by population).

For example with my kid: we're within town liberty radius, are a generational military family (multiple Naval officers), and I went to NAPS, and grew up in Annapolis as a teenager, so had a lot to share with hom about the place. He decided that was what he wanted to do, and went after it.

DC, Maryland and Virgina, the DMV, also has a high income, highly educated professional work force. Therefore, parents place a premium on children's education and are willing to pay high taxes for very good public schools. Add this fact to what you just said, and the combination makes it very very competitive. Note, Maryland and Virginia areas within a 50 mile radius of DC, only.

Sealion II · Apr 12, 2023

Alchemist said:
DC, Maryland and Virgina, the DMV, also has a high income, highly educated professional work force. Therefore, parents place a premium on children's education and are willing to pay high taxes for very good public schools. Add this fact to what you just said, and the combination makes it very very competitive. Note, Maryland and Virginia areas within a 50 mile radius of DC, only.

And high tuition for private schools.

DDCopilot · Apr 12, 2023

Coffee22 said:
Does NJ typically post high numbers here?

Not really. They post about 6 on average with 9 so far this year.

USN/USCGMamaBear · Apr 12, 2023

DDCopilot said:
Not really. They post about 6 on average with 9 so far this year.

Ok, I’ll bite. Do you mind sharing the historical data of KY postings? We have 6 districts (and obviously 2 senators). We know one other confirmed (accepted) appointment besides the one posted on the forum.

Gnarlygoat27 · Apr 12, 2023

Alchemist said:
DC, Maryland and Virgina, the DMV, also has a high income, highly educated professional work force. Therefore, parents place a premium on children's education and are willing to pay high taxes for very good public schools. Add this fact to what you just said, and the combination makes it very very competitive. Note, Maryland and Virginia areas within a 50 mile radius of DC, only.

This is so very true. My son's HS has been in the national news quite a bit because of their admissions policies as a magnet public school. It is so competitive the expectation is that a good bit of the graduating class will go to Ivies or something equivalent. But then the conversation of were all these kids given paid tutors and privilege to get in in the first place. Some definitely were. I can confidently say my kid wasn't groomed to go there, he landed there with good advice, hard work, and probably a fair bit of luck on his side. And completely sought it out on his own. Remains to be seen if thats enough to get him to such a competitive university as well. Because his school is so tough though it may backfire as I'm also confident his GPA would be quite a bit higher at his districted school. But we'll see what the Academy's admissions algorithm spits out as far as weighing the difficulty of the school with the whole candidate.

Areffitt07 · Apr 12, 2023

USN/USCGMamaBear said:
Ok, I’ll bite. Do you mind sharing the historical data of KY postings? We have 6 districts (and obviously 2 senators). We know one other confirmed (accepted) appointment besides the one posted on the forum.

Would love to see this too! I wonder if the one posted here decided to accept? That was District 2 (our district and was a nom from the congressman from this district)

IronmanDaremo · Apr 12, 2023

Where we are (Howard County), it is historically in the range of 4th - 6th "richest" counties in the country. The top ones are predominantly DC suburbs.

Yeah, lots of money. Lots of privelaged kids. And lots of pretentious pr--ks.

DDCopilot · Apr 12, 2023

USN/USCGMamaBear said:
Ok, I’ll bite. Do you mind sharing the historical data of KY postings? We have 6 districts (and obviously 2 senators). We know one other confirmed (accepted) appointment besides the one posted on the forum.

Sure! not much to see there.... only 1-2 reported appointments a year.

USN/USCGMamaBear · Apr 12, 2023

Areffitt07 said:
Would love to see this too! I wonder if the one posted here decided to accept? That was District 2 (our district and was a nom from the congressman from this district)

The one we know accepted an appointment a couple of months ago is is District 1(our district and nom from the congressman) and we only know that because it was in the local news.

Alchemist · Apr 12, 2023

Sealion II said:
And high tuition for private schools.

Definitely, starting at the low end of $15K per kid per year.

Alchemist · Apr 12, 2023

IronmanDaremo said:
Where we are (Howard County), it is historically in the range of 4th - 6th "richest" counties in the country. The top ones are predominantly DC suburbs.

Yeah, lots of money. Lots of privelaged kids. And lots of pretentious pr--ks.

And, lots of private tutoring and prep courses, too.

IggyMom23 · Apr 12, 2023

SnootyHen said:
IL is still pretty under-represented based on the population. I think. Based on our limited numbers available anyway. And this is what I tell myself to keep hope alive.

I’m with you, Snooty!

hopefulhockeymom · Apr 12, 2023

DDCopilot said:
happy to look. it keeps me from texting my DD to check her portal during class

Lol! I don’t imagine there is much data, but any trends for CO? We know of two acceptances that are NOT listed (both recruited athletes), as well as one turn-down. DD and another applicant we know are still CPR. Thanks!!

Rank	Population	State	Appointments
1	39,538,223	California	10
2	29,145,505	Texas	12
3	21,538,187	Florida	7
4	20,201,249	New York	1
5	13,002,700	Pennsylvania	4
6	12,812,508	Illinois	7
7	11,799,448	Ohio	5
8	10,711,908	Georgia	4
9	10,439,388	North Carolina	8
10	10,077,331	Michigan	3
11	9,288,994	New Jersey	10
12	8,631,393	Virginia	6
13	7,705,281	Washington	3
14	7,151,502	Arizona	1
15	7,029,917	Massachusetts	2
16	6,910,840	Tennessee
17	6,785,528	Indiana	1
18	6,177,224	Maryland	5
19	6,154,913	Missouri	1
20	5,893,718	Wisconsin	1
21	5,773,714	Colorado	1
22	5,706,494	Minnesota	3
23	5,118,425	South Carolina	1
24	5,024,279	Alabama
25	4,657,757	Louisiana	2
26	4,505,836	Kentucky	1
27	4,237,256	Oregon
28	3,959,353	Oklahoma	3
29	3,605,944	Connecticut
30	3,271,616	Utah	1
31	3,190,369	Iowa	1
32	3,104,614	Nevada	1
33	3,011,524	Arkansas	2
34	2,961,279	Mississippi
35	2,937,880	Kansas	2
36	2,117,522	New Mexico	1
37	1,961,504	Nebraska	1
38	1,839,106	Idaho
39	1,793,716	West Virginia
40	1,455,271	Hawaii	1
41	1,377,529	New Hampshire	3
42	1,362,359	Maine	1
43	1,097,379	Rhode Island
44	1,084,225	Montana
45	989,948	Delaware	1
46	886,667	South Dakota
47	779,094	North Dakota
48	733,391	Alaska
49	643,077	Vermont
50	576,851	Wyoming
		Reported to Date	117

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