Looking at the men’s roster a pretty decent split between public and private, probably a nod to private. I see one with what I consider prep, Blair. I also counted 25 or 26 players on the roster. Side note - For anyone thinking they are going to walk on to these sports… it’s an eye opener. 12 Freshman and 2 seniors. The senior class probably started with 8-10 and 2 made it 4 years. This is not uncommon. The ability to transfer can vary by state and rules. I played in high school that public and private followed the same rules, so transferring was much more difficult. Also, the definition of what could fall into prep could be debated as well. I mean we have prep schools like Choate and Andover, private schools that every place has some are religious based and quality varies, Magnet which can vary by state (Thomas Jefferson is one of the top schools in the country in Fairfax, VA and produces tons of USNA appointees) and public schools. Not to mention homeschooling growth as well.
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IronmanDaremo
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The only thing worse than politicians are special interest group lobbyists. They do not want what is best for the country. They want what is best for their version of the country and will exploit the laws and their bought politicians to make it happen. Ridiculously rich "pious" religious groups are the worst.
As for ultra-liberal people not wanting to serve? Tell us how you really feel. My son and I are pretty f---ing liberal, and I'm a war vet and the kid is doing pretty darn well at the Academy and wants to serve.
As for ultra-liberal people not wanting to serve? Tell us how you really feel. My son and I are pretty f---ing liberal, and I'm a war vet and the kid is doing pretty darn well at the Academy and wants to serve.
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Well considering that the Baltimore Area Prep School HS league covers not only Baltimore city but Baltimore county, Howard county wilh allegedly some of the best public schools in the country, Arundel county , Hartford county, id say that one heck of a lot of public HS grads in that area attend college after HS. Those counties all have high quality public High schools.
But it’s those prep school boys and girls that have been a feeder for SAs for decades.
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At the end of the day what is needed are cadets that truly want to serve something greater within our Military. My cadet in the class of 27' at USAFA, has stated well over 100 have already quit and gone home. They stated they had another last week decide to leave. SA's do account for loss and expect such %, but this many so quickly seems like a lot. Public or Private, just find the cadets that want to defend what is needed and can face the stresses of military life.
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There are historical numbers at least for a class year. But I would guess that the majority of those that do walk away and quit that will happen within summer training and the first month of class for the majority and right around Christmas for a smaller bump.
Your original post and your point would be easier to understand without the reference to M1A Abrams tanks and a Swedish arms manufacturer.
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I've only read up to page one of this thread (its up to 3 pages now) but your numbers really are catching my attention
because they are so very very low. First of all, are you sure that you're catching all of the applicable mids? Remember that
some come in on non MOC/Senatorial noms.
As for it being low, I'll just say that my Congressional District's numbers at USNA for most years are greater than this and
at least lately, the numbers at USMA are well above it. While a few do come from Prep schools, most come from our
public schools.
For the record, my son who is USNA 2011 attended a "decent" public school and we did not fund any tutoring or special
courses/classes including SAT Prep. He graduated in the top 10% of his USNA class and then top of his class at Nuke
Power school. It seems that you're very worried about prep schoolers taking over the academies but I don't see it happening
as decent public schools seem to be a reasonable pathway to the Academies. Back when I attended, it was before Affirmative
Action and while we had a few prep school grads, they were indeed few.
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Blair for High School or Blair for Foundation Prep? There is a huge difference for this discussion.
By the way, I live 40-50 miles from Blair and their athletic teams do not seem to be very
prominent in a state with some VERY prominent private school programs.
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Public vs private
there are over 90,000 public schools in the US there are over 14,000 private schools. Of course more SA students will come from public schools. But I would bet those private schools will have a higher % of SA admittance.
there are over 90,000 public schools in the US there are over 14,000 private schools. Of course more SA students will come from public schools. But I would bet those private schools will have a higher % of SA admittance.
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Whether public or private, the number one factor influencing student success is parental engagement. I have known lower income kids in public schools whose parents were very engaged and those kids performed at high levels. I have also known high income kids at private schools whose parents were disengaged and those kids drifted in the wind.
For the last several years the vast majority of appointees in our congressional district have been public school graduates
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For the last several years the vast majority of appointees in our congressional district have been public school graduates
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High school. If he was to attend prep via USNA they would have sent him to NAPS not Foundation for basketball. I did see there is a Mid who played for George Mason and then came to USNA, that is a rarity.
I find myself becoming increasingly reticent to jump in on some these charges posts but here we are…
I think the concept being argued is that, traditionally, an argument could be made that those at prep school have greater resources (whether personal, familial, or institutional) to foster an environment that can provide *more* opportunities to develop those experiences that drive WCS. In most, if not all, of these instances, the candidate still has to have the internal makeup to take advantage of those opportunities and still have to do the work. And there is a socioeconomic component to this - even if a student is on “generous” financial aid. Because there is a socioeconomic component to this, there’s also a correlated racial component. That said, this doesn’t negate the fact that many of the parents here had different experiences with their kids - which is amazing. Hearing the stories of what your kids have done, regardless of whether they came through public or private schools, is humbling. Kids that want this for themselves will do their best to find a way. But some, especially those who might be disadvantaged (and I mean that in number of ways, not just socioeconomically), might have more barriers and less help in doing so.
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I'm still confused. How are you inferring a racial component to these stats? Do you have data that breaks down these particular As and the Bs by race? I can't tell from your table where race comes in to play, just high school type. The suit is about race not the type of high school applicants graduate from.
How does anyone know where the appointees come from in each district? I'm truly curious. Is this data available by district/state searches?
Excellent question. Our Congressman will post the names (and schools) for everyone he nominated, but I've never seen any published data on 1) those offered appointments and 2) those who accepted. Some schools make announcements on their social media sites, but not all.
Thanks for your reply.
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In my case, I know the info for the candidates that I personally interviewed which are a reasonable sample of the district's candidates. For the last couple of years, the MOC has issued a press release, generally in June which lists name and high school of everyone from the district being admitted (service connected noms).