USAFA Prep vs AFROTC

bruiser617

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About two years of college and AFROTC under my belt... received my EA (Field Training Ticket) yesterday morning, and also a week ago an admission offer to the USAFA Prep School class of 2025. Let leadership know of my intention to accept my AFROTC opportunity yesterday, but have been having second thoughts all day. I have yet to contract and commit as I have not signed anything or sworn in yet. Also extremely rare having gone to college yet received a Prep offer as I understand. I do not think age would be an issue as I am still pretty young at 19 years old. The Academy has been a dream of mine since elementary school and all of a sudden, such a hard choice. Biggest fears are that I will regret my decision... I plan to decline my EA and Accept the Prep School offer... a complete 180 and different lifestyle entirely... any advice? Thank You.
 
It all comes down to what YOU want. You say that USAFA has been your dream since elementary school and USAFAPS is a golden ticket. If you 100% want to be a pilot I would recommend USAFA. If not AFROTC is a great route.
 
About two years of college and AFROTC under my belt... received my EA (Field Training Ticket) yesterday morning, and also a week ago an admission offer to the USAFA Prep School class of 2025.
I recommend two pieces of advice. One talk to some who went to ROTC then came here. I have friend who did one year of ROTC and one at nwp. Two don't think of woulda coulda shoulda it won't help you here. 29 may have completely different training but it doesn't matter the training it matters the end goal.

As mention above what do you want out of all of this. If it gets you closer to your goal take that route (even if that's not coming here). I don't mean time wise either. Five years here? Flys by Im almost a junior and I remember the day I posted "hey rate my application" here
 
To the two above responses... absolutely, thank you.

It comes down to my own choice as you both said. I want to become the best officer I could and know that while extremely difficult and a couple extra years of college and training, USAFA would provide me with that. I think I did not think through how great of an opportunity the Prep school and eventually (hopefully) the Academy would be. My ROTC Detachment leadership has made clear that they want what is best for ME, and that there would be no hard feelings. I guess I only would feel bad to leave my friends behind and also accept the Prep school after so many of my close sophomore friends were rejected from Field Training. But hey, maybe me accepting would allow for one of them to go to Field Training. 10 months of preparation for 4 years of college on hard / go mode, but I believe I am capable of doing this. I am lucky to have the support of parents, friends, family, professors, and Cadre... would not be here without them. I think my second thoughts HAVE to have some significance and mean something, otherwise I would be perfectly content with ROTC. I have lived the traditional college life for two years, and may honestly get tired of it after a while.
 
I think my second thoughts HAVE to have some significance and mean something, otherwise I would be perfectly content with ROTC. I have lived the traditional college life for two years, and may honestly get tired of it after a while.
I do agree seconds thoughts act as warnings. Its more, once you have decision don't regret it. I specifically calling out the life style. I knew someone who did three years of ROTC and still came here. They're no longer here.

I also know quite a few ROTC who want their old life back and then remember why they came. End goals. Putting up with Sami's and the nonsense that truly will astound you. (Currently lovely issue is males are being charged more for hair cuts, women hair have to pay out of pocket now. Yes I'm not joking that's what we're upset about. It's dumb)

So is putting up with cadets and cadet life for the next five years worth your goal. No one can tell you but you and that's why I'm telling you to talk to other cadets.
But if is worth it? I don't recommend second guessing once you get here. "Man I wouldn't have to put up with this at ROTC or dang it's so little free time" for example

This isn't meant to discount certain valid second thoughts: family, friends or mental/physical health here are all examples of valid thinking because they can effect your end goal.

Best of luck to you and I know you'll make the best of either choice.
 
I was in your exact position 2 years ago almost to the day and I decided to stay with AFROTC and I don't regret it for a minute. As a current AFROTC senior, I'm obviously biased, but I say just stick with the current program. 2 years will go by so soon and if the end goal is a commission, then why add an extra three years just to get the same end goal? Yes, the USAFA has arguably more opportunities and first choice for job selections (boy oh boy am I jealous of that), but is that worth an extra 3 years? In 5 years, you would be a 1st Lt w/ one year away from Capt, or a freshly commissioned 2d Lt. Depending on your career field, you could be approaching your 2nd assignment out of training, or be a freshly commissioned 2d Lt. If you're doing it for the pay, you can do the math yourself, but 3 years of 2d and 1st Lt pay is a lot better than USAFA cadet pay, even if you include cost of college w/ a CMLA scholarship. You'd be sacrificing a lot of freedom and would have to spend a lot of time "learning" stuff you've already mastered in your AS200 year, which if you talk to any prior or AFROTC transfer at USAFA, it can be super frustrating and feel like you're wasting your time.

I have a lot of friends at USAFA currently as I went to NWP with them, and at the end of the day, we'll commission at the same time and practically at the same level of experience. AFROTC is going under a huge revamp for the POC so you'll get a better FT experience and POC experience than any of your current POC at your det.

All of this to be said, it's your decision and do what you think would be best for you. This form is called service academy forums, so you're going to get a lot of bias from SA people. I'm just trying to offer my other side of bias. This may be unpopular on this thread, but I feel like I was able to develop better work-life balance habits, maintain my own internal standards rather than living in an environment that forces me to follow the standard and when no one's watching it drops away, and have more freedom and opportunities outside of the DAF for development (internships, jobs, etc).

That being said, if you want to be a pilot or go USSF, your selection rates are better at USAFA, but if you work yourself to the top 15-20% nationally, you should be chilling with no fears.

At the end of the day, do what you think is best for you and make the best decision with the information you have at the time. Don't look back and regret that you made that decision once you have more information, because hindsight is always 20/20. The source of the commission really doesn't matter all too much as each program will offer you plenty of resources to succeed, and it's more so about the work that the cadet puts into their respective program that makes them a good 2d Lt rather than the source of the butter bars.
 
I agree with the poster above me, and I'd stick it out with AFROTC. You've completed 2 years of it and have been invited to field training. Just 2 more years to go, and you'll commission as an O-1.

What's your end goal? Is it to commission or be an academy grad? Currently, continuing with AFROTC offers the best path for you to commission. You've shown them you're a great AFROTC cadet and have been invited to field training as a result of that. Not all cadets get that invite, even some on 4-year scholarships. ROTC is a great path. Once you commission, people will care more about how well you do your assigned job instead of your commissioning source.
 
It is a choice between the prestige of a service academy and three years of OP's life plus the resource has invested on

Gen Colin Powell did not go to SA, Gen CQ Brown also went ROTC.
 
Commission in 2026 in 2 more years of training/school via ROTC, or go through 5 years of classes then Commission in 2029 via USAFA. Bird in hand with AFROTC - you're in and just need to continue to meet standards, vs a high percentage shot via the prep program but not a guarantee for prep to USAFA. If you aren't accepted to USAFA after prep, how badly will you kick yourself for trying this? Or would you be happy you went for it. If it works out, then sounds like the prep to USAFA aligns with your dream.

Sit with the person in the mirror for a while - what is it that you want? the SA experience or to commission and serve as a priority. It's your life - you are young. Not a dress rehearsal - so do with it as you wish.

Good luck.
 
There was someone in my det who had a similar situation only difference was that he didn't get prep school and went direct. I truly believe you would be fine with either choice. But something I would consider is 1. if you wanna be a pilot and 2. what's your commander ranking (guess) and AFOQT/TBAS/Pilot hours in AFROTC. Answering these two questions could really sway your decisions in one direction.
 
With a DS who was a Preppie they are basically told that their spot on The Hill is guaranteed and it's theirs to lose. That being said, nothing is certain but I can tell you that there were several previously ROTC cadets in his class at The P and I have yet to meet a Preppie who isn't very proud of their path and who would do it any other way. Being two years into ROTC is tough but it should also make life as a student at USAFA much easier and academics during the Doolie year is a major stumbling block for many with the other aspects thrown in that a regular university doesn't have. At the end of the day it has to be whatever you decide is the best path for you but know you will not be the first or last that has chosen the extended timeline path after starting down the enlisted or ROTC routes. Good luck with your decision and live your dream whichever direction that takes you. I'm sure you will be successful either way!
 
@ this point could still go either way honestly. I have weighed all options I could think of. In reality I couldn’t go wrong with either and am certainly blessed for both… I still keep asking myself “what if” or what am I missing out on by attending one over the other. Was not expecting both to work out haha. Have until Tuesday to officially decide… will give it some more time.
 
I’m a 100 in afrotc reapplying to the academy and if I were you I would honestly just take the EA and got to field training. As a POC you will be guaranteed to commission and can get a pilot slot in the end too. You will be able to start your career much earlier too which may align better with your future goals.
 
Wait, you already did 2 years of college, then will need to do 1 year of AF Prep School and then do 4 years of the academy? You do what will makes you happy, but honestly, that is crazy That is 7 years of college. If you stay in college, you will be commissioned in 2 years. If you go to the academy, you will be commissioned in 5 years. Moneywise, that is at least about 120K in income you will be missing out for getting the exact same commission.
 
in my honest opinion, nobody is gonna care where you came from and the route you took to become an officer, an officer is an officer and you being the best officer you can be doesn’t completely depend on how you got there. Many outstanding high ranking officers are not academy grads for example. Why spend so many more years of your life just for the same result when it’s right there in front of you?
 
Update : Sticking with AFROTC… same destination, different path, things change, best fit for me atm.

Thank you to everyone here for all your time and tips / insights !!
Good choice! Have fun at Maxwell and even more fun as a POC!

Some unsolicited advice for you and anyone else going to FT this summer. I would highly recommend reading over the AFROTCI 36-2011 Vol 1 (the new one that came out like 3 weeks ago) to see all the objectives HQ expects you to know before arriving because sometimes dets forget to train something or don't train it to the required level expected. Also, read over the DNC before going, or at least skim it over on the plane. You'd be surprised how helpful it'll be.

More unsolicited advice for when you get back. Stay super involved as a POC and get the most out of your time. Apply for positions you don't think you're qualified for and try to grow as much as possible in prep for active duty. That being said, your main job is student so don't ever let AFROTC get in the way of your grades: they matter so much more than you realize. Stay humble and always pull people up to your level instead of stepping on those below you to rise up.

Again, congrats on the EA!
 
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