Physical Fitness

Squidward said:
... I also work landscaping for a horse stable and a few neighborhood clients and its hot and dirty and really muggy.
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Well .... if you want to be real intense and get a lot of stares, put some 10lb ankle weights around your "Muck Boots".
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Dr. Strange Love said:
Squidward said:
... I also work landscaping for a horse stable and a few neighborhood clients and its hot and dirty and really muggy.
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Well .... if you want to be real intense and get a lot of stares, put some 10lb ankle weights around your "Muck Boots".
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:)
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Well the only stares I get are mostly from the 4-legged kind but that's a great idea and I will do that. My football coach has been putting weight plates in a backpack and making me run with those at practice (we are not full pads yet) but I had not considered ankle weights. thanks!
 
Squidward said:
Well the only stares I get are mostly from the 4-legged kind but that's a great idea and I will do that. My football coach has been putting weight plates in a backpack and making me run with those at practice (we are not full pads yet) but I had not considered ankle weights. thanks!
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You got to be "Nimble" around those horses. Be careful.
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NavyHoops said:
If someone falls into that 1% or less after 4 years and can’t pass... then they don’t deserve to graduate. They know the standards. I have been to several sub school, flight school and other graduations. Yes, some with new freedom of food and deciding what to eat don’t do well. It’s a small number. Sure they don’t need to be in great shape to sit in chair, but they do to fight fires, stopping water in floods and every sub needs qualified dive officers.
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Sub school graduation last year. It wasn’t just a few. Only way to describe it — a lot of overweight kids. A lot!
 
there is a thing called the 12 Mile Club - those mids who run a total of 12 miles in their 4 years at USNA , 1.5 miles for the PRT twice a year, that's it
you can figure out the rest
 
IMO, arriving "out of shape" for PS is due to three things. First, I've seen lots of folks post "passing" CFA scores that aren't nearly good enough to pass the PRT once at USNA let alone get through PEP without a struggle. They may be lulled into a false sense of security. They think they're in good shape but aren't. Not excusing this b/c they should follow the recommended training schedule USNA provides, but many don't.

Which brings me to reason #2 -- folks are in good shape in April. Then, their spring sport ends, they get involved in graduation activities, then vacation -- and the workouts lessen or stop altogether. By end of June, they're out of shape.

Third reason is that they just don't care. Figure it'll all somehow come together when they arrive at PS. They'll get into shape.

Realize it's frustrating to those not admitted. However, as Ac Year starts, many of the PT studs will have other issues. Some will struggle with academics for any number of reasons unrelated to intelligence. Some can't (or don't want to) follow the rules and have conduct issues. Some can't go without drugs or alcohol. Most will be fine despite the struggles.

It is misguided to assume that someone who wasn't appointed would not have the issues you see in those appointed. Everyone says, "I wouldn't do that" or "My kid would NEVER do that." Every one of these kids and parents were sure it wouldn't be them -- until it is.
 
usna1985 said:
IMO, arriving "out of shape" for PS is due to three things. First, I've seen lots of folks post "passing" CFA scores that aren't nearly good enough to pass the PRT once at USNA let alone get through PEP without a struggle.
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I often raise an eyebrow at some of the self-reported CFA results that we see here - particularly the mile runs. As most longtime posters know, USNA used to test mids with a mile run every semester and eventually, it changed to the mile and a half to match what had been adopted by the rest of the Navy. The pace required to do well on the PRT run is similar to that from the mile run days and back then, 6:30 was barely passing and garnered a low "D" grade. The lowest "C" was a 6:10. Many of the CFAs that we see are 7's or mid 6's and they are far from "good" in the context of what is expected at USNA.
 
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I think USNA may "overcompensate" for the fatigue factor on the mile time in the CFA. Also, I've known males with ~7:30 CFA mile times who pass. As you correctly point out, if a male can't run a mile in under 6:30, there's no way he's going to run 1.5 miles in <10:30, which I believe is the passing time. Ditto for females (for their times).

It would be nice to see USNA move to test more aligned with (or identical to) the PFT for admissions. However, I know there is pressure to keep a single test for the "big 3," so candidates don't have to take the physical test 3X (when what's being tested would still be largely similar). It's also difficult for some candidates to find an administrator for even one test, let alone 3.
 
IMHO being able to run 5 miles and doing it frequently is a better indicator of conditioning than time in a mile run
 
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