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This morning DS received an email from USNA Admissions asking that 7th semester grades be submitted when they become available. What does this likely mean? That his file has been reviewed by the board, and they are considering whether he is academically qualified? Is the assumption, that otherwise they believe his package looks good?
 
They want to see his progress either overall or in a certain class. Maybe he is taking a critical class like Calc or Chem and they want to see his progress. We could speculate all day what it means, but the reality is there are tons of candidates who have their 7th semester grades requested who get appointments and plenty who don't have them requested and don't. He hasn't got a TWE yet, that means he is still in the running.
 
Should I be concerned that they have not requested my transcripts? I am taking Chem this year.
 
MichUSNA2021hopefulparent said:
This morning DS received an email from USNA Admissions asking that 7th semester grades be submitted when they become available. What does this likely mean? That his file has been reviewed by the board, and they are considering whether he is academically qualified? Is the assumption, that otherwise they believe his package looks good?
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Which MI district are you from? Has your son heard anything from either of our esteemed Senators?
 
There is no need to send in the transcript unless specifically asked. For some individuals, the Admissions Board already has enough information to make (or in some cases they have made) a decision...which is why they are not asked to submit an updated transcript. For others, they might be "on the line" as far as being qualified for the Admissions Board and this updated transcript could help sway the decision one way or the other.
 
usnabgo08 said:
There is no need to send in the transcript unless specifically asked. For some individuals, the Admissions Board already has enough information to make (or in some cases they have made) a decision...which is why they are not asked to submit an updated transcript. For others, they might be "on the line" as far as being qualified for the Admissions Board and this updated transcript could help sway the decision one way or the other.
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Would you know if candidates can send in 7th semester grades on their own (without a request)? Son had an A in AP calculus and A's in a few other AP courses which improved his GPA and class rank.
 
They certainly can...but I would consult the admissions counselor first.
 
TexasSoccerMom said:
Would you know if candidates can send in 7th semester grades on their own (without a request)? Son had an A in AP calculus and A's in a few other AP courses which improved his GPA and class rank.
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DD just asked her admissions counselor if she could have it sent since she has several AP classes that she did quite well in, her GPA went up and it will now have class rank which is only computed after 7th semester grades are posted. They said yes but it does have to come from school as official transcript. Just have son send an email.
 
NavyHoops,

My DS's 7th semester is over now, and his grades are as follows:

AP Calculus C
AP Physics C
AP English /Lit & Comp B
AP Government A
Honors Spanish 4 A
Theology 12 A
Concert Band A

Given the C's, is he screwed?
 
MichUSNA2021hopefulparent said:
NavyHoops,

My DS's 7th semester is over now, and his grades are as follows:

AP Calculus C
AP Physics C
AP English /Lit & Comp B
AP Government A
Honors Spanish 4 A
Theology 12 A
Concert Band A

Given the C's, is he screwed?
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I actually got similar grades except I got straight A's and 2 C's (in the exact same classes as your DS's too). I was panicking too but USNA has not requested my 7th semester transcript. I'm just hoping they don't need it to make a decision. Did USNA request your DS's 7th semester?
 
Well, I don't know how it will affect his profile (as do many people on this forum), but I think if your DS has a high ACT/SAT score, it should be able to compensate for his low 7th semester transcript. Just what I think.
 
Well, DD asked her admissions counselor if she should send her 7th semester grades in since they show A's in AP Calc and AP Physics and they said she didn't need to do that. We've already established that it's too hard to know what that means but I'm kind of freaking out. Doesn't sound great to me. Sigh....
 
Pete I would not read too much into it at this point. Last year when DS contacted admissions to send in additional information they replied back that they did not need anymore information on him and today he is a plebe in the class of 2020. So you never know until you know.

One interesting thing I learned last year was that as a parent you really do not get a day of minimal worry until they are either turned down or plebe summer is over. It is a very long but satisfying journey. Keep being her rock and know that one way or another it will all workout.
 
MichUSNA2021hopefulparent said:
NavyHoops,

My DS's 7th semester is over now, and his grades are as follows:

AP Calculus C
AP Physics C
AP English /Lit & Comp B
AP Government A
Honors Spanish 4 A
Theology 12 A
Concert Band A

Given the C's, is he screwed?
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He isn't screwed. Until he gets a TWE the game isn't over yet. I have no idea how admissions will look at the Cs. They will also look at his school profile and SAT/ACT to build a complete picture. Bottom line, can't change the past. If he busted his hump and he can look himself in the mirror knowing he gave it his all, then he did what he was supposed to do. One of the great parts of these types of forums and all the info out there; informed candidates. The bad part; over analysis. Everyone take a deep breathe. For the seniors out there, go have fun. You graduate soon, its supposed to be the time of your life. We can find dozens of examples of candidates who got in with a C or two on their transcript and another dozen who didn't get in. Good luck to everyone. The wait isn't much longer.
 
USNA reached out directly to school for 7th semester transcripts. We found out only because the registrar's office told us they were sending them. Unfortunately, 7th semester gave DS his first "B" ever so class rank dropped from weighted 3 of 517 (at time of application) to 5 of 509. "B" was in AP Calc BC, while also taking AP Physics C, AP Physics 2, AP English Lit, Spanish Honors and a Leadership class, plus he had football season 1st semester. I would like to think that a minimal drop in class rank shouldn't have an impact given course load and extra curriculars, plus still retaining a gpa of 5.7619 on a 5.0 scale. School sent transcripts yesterday via snail mail, so the waiting continues. I'm not trying to read too much into it, but I do wonder why Admissions would want 7th semester transcripts for some students but not others whose applications are still pending review. I know his Plan B's (Notre Dame, Northwestern, etc...) also required 7th semester transcripts.
 
goirish1 said:
USNA reached out directly to school for 7th semester transcripts. We found out only because the registrar's office told us they were sending them. Unfortunately, 7th semester gave DS his first "B" ever so class rank dropped from weighted 3 of 517 (at time of application) to 5 of 509. "B" was in AP Calc BC, while also taking AP Physics C, AP Physics 2, AP English Lit, Spanish Honors and a Leadership class, plus he had football season 1st semester. I would like to think that a minimal drop in class rank shouldn't have an impact given course load and extra curriculars, plus still retaining a gpa of 5.7619 on a 5.0 scale. School sent transcripts yesterday via snail mail, so the waiting continues. I'm not trying to read too much into it, but I do wonder why Admissions would want 7th semester transcripts for some students but not others whose applications are still pending review. I know his Plan B's (Notre Dame, Northwestern, etc...) also required 7th semester transcripts.
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Dropping 2 spots is not going to hurt him. A B in AP Calc BC is not going to ruin his chances. None of us know why exactly why some send them and others don't. Speculation is they want more information to make an informed decision. Maybe they are taking critical core classes like Physics, Chem or Calc that they didn't have on their transcripts and they wanted to see how they were doing. Maybe the school profile isn't as competitive as others and they want to see how they did in those tougher courses. Maybe their grades and standardize scores are very different from one another and they want to take one more look at all the information available. Good luck.
 
mpete2150 said:
Well, DD asked her admissions counselor if she should send her 7th semester grades in since they show A's in AP Calc and AP Physics and they said she didn't need to do that. We've already established that it's too hard to know what that means but I'm kind of freaking out. Doesn't sound great to me. Sigh....
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@mpete2150, if DD identified who she is and admissions counselor actually looked her up, and said what you told us, I think the odds are in her favor.
Best of luck to you and DD!!!
 
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