Army Aviation( unrelated to admissions)

Slim-Cheezy

USMA Class of 2026
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So this is just to spark interests in those considering aviation after USMA, but does anyone know what the situation will be with the Defiant/ Valor coming in to service? I read online that the first operational units wont be phased into the Army until around 2030, but I(if all goes to plan) won't graduate USMA until 2026, and then(again if all goes according to plan) will be at Rucker for another year and a half or so putting me at '27 or '28. Do you think I would be able to select that kind of airframe yet, or go with what we have? It would be awesome to fly one of those, but you get what you get and flying a helicopter in general is awesome. Was just wondering how all that would work?
 
Experience with Army aviation tells me these particular airframes won't actually come into service until well into the mid/late 2030's (despite what the Army is projecting). That is just how it works in the Department of Defense when it comes to the introduction of new airframes. If you branch aviation you will more than likely end up in one of the current models the Army is flying today. That of course does not mean you won't be able to transition to one of the new airframes once they come online. Do remember this, however, commissioned officers in the Army Aviation branch do not get nearly the number of hours that warrant officers do in the cockpit. If your passion is flying helicopters then perhaps becoming a warrant officer is in the cards. This is not as uncommon as it sounds as Army aviators who commission as LTs, but prefer "everyday" flying to command will sometimes move over to become warrant officers (this was somewhat infrequent in my day, but happened nonetheless). Good luck at USMA!!
 
Thank you for the knowledge! My field force representative is an old nightstalker and had discussed the warrant officer subject with me in the past. I think I would be rather ok with "flying a desk" however. I was just wondering how the phasing in and out of airframes works. Thanks again!
 
We have been told that we will most likely see them as senior Captains. Select officers will be able to take the advanced airframe courses on them to be prepared to receive them into formations.

@Casey will be able to comment on this better than I can--this is just what the Aviation branching representatives have told me.
 
We have been told that we will most likely see them as senior Captains. Select officers will be able to take the advanced airframe courses on them to be prepared to receive them into formations.

@Casey will be able to comment on this better than I can--this is just what the Aviation branching representatives have told me.

Yea, this sounds fairly in line with what I expect if not even longer to see widespread proliferation through the force. Acquisitions, particularly with how expensive and how long it takes to get an aircraft off the line at the factory to the end of the user, takes a very long time.

To give some perspective, the UH-60M, which was not as radical of a change as these airframes will introduce into manning, maintenance, and force structure, first started being fielded around 2007. The last active duty assault battalion to get their Mikes got them in 2020, and right now it can take anywhere from 1-2 years to get an aircraft out of the factory, through the correct mods, and out to the force for actual use. Short of total war where we shut everything down and just make production a priority, I expect fielding for the new airframes to occur similarly where they are phased out into the force over a couple decades based on mission priority and ability to force restructure.

To that end, there are also a number of initiatives running concurrently to extend the life of the current airframes through this transition I would bet goes through the next couple decades. Look up the UH-60V project and some of the CH-47 block mods that will be fielded over the next decade if you’re interested

So odds are, I’d bet you end up flying legacy aircraft unless you work out some luck and timing that you’re in the right place, right time and the Army thinks it’s worth the investment to train you in the new airframe. Either way, it’ll be a fun time. Flying is cool 😎
 
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