Can mids wear long underwear? Staying warm at Army/Navy?

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We’ve only seen the Army/Navy game on tv, but it appears to be pretty brutally cold some years. Any advice for keeping mids warm while staying within uniform regs?

Beat Army!
 
We’ve only seen the Army/Navy game on tv, but it appears to be pretty brutally cold some years. Any advice for keeping mids warm while staying within uniform regs?

Beat Army!

If it can’t be seen outside or through the uniform (tip, don’t wear a Mickey Mouse t-shirt under a summer white uniform shirt), all will be fine.

Some of the usual tactics to augment service dress blue (SDB), bridge coat/overcoat, white neck scarf:

- Under Armour cold weather leggings/tights and top
- Silk or other thin performance long johns
- Two layers of socks, or a performance sock liner, or black hiking socks, or thin merino or cashmere wool socks under the uniform black socks
- Glove liners, or thin wool gloves to wear underneath the uniform black gloves
- I think they get ear muffs issued
- Some leeway is granted to wear Navy spirit hats once they are in the stands or at some designated point. All kinds of blue and gold erupt out of pockets.
- The chemical packet hand and foot warmers.
- For women, a thin Cuddl Duds camisole can add an additional layer underneath a performance layer and uniform shirt. Cuddl Duds also has a complete line of cold weather layers for women. Less pricey than UA.
- Thin layers are the key.
- Plebes will get plenty of advice from upper class on survival techniques. They figure it out.


I have done my share of attending the game in uniform, from well-before March On and through Blue and Gold in the evening, and feeling the raw, damp December cold turn my feet into aching blocks of ice.

The warm bathrooms frequently become refugee areas!

My secret was a thin merino wool sweater in black, with a very deep v-neck, which I could wear under my SDB blouse (uniform jacket) without adding bulk or showing, because that item is never worn unbuttoned. I also wore a performance under layer, top and bottom, and two pair of black cashmere socks. As soon as the National Anthem was sung, I pulled my trusty issue dark navy wool watch cap out of my pocket, still the warmest head covering I own, and the oldest uniform item I still wear - though it’s the early morning dog walking go-to now.
 
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One of my bucket list items is to go to an Army Navy game and have free choice to wear what I want. It can be brutal, too cold or too hot, and the standard uniform is rarely the perfect attire for anything. (I can tell you though, a favorable score often contributes to comfort, regardless of the weather).

As CAPT MJ points out, this is one the Midshipmen figure out, and I also recall it was one of the rare occasions (back in the day) when the Upperclass used positive mentoring (instead of busting our a$$) to overcome a shared hardship.
 
One of my DD's best friends stole her foot warmers before March On. She wanted to kill him.
 
- Add removable insoles with warmth or insulating properties to my original list.

This year, my DH is getting sheepskin shoe insole inserts for his barn boots as a stocking stuffer. A Vermont friend of ours recommended them to help solve a cold feet problem. It’s my feet that got cold at A-N when I wore a uniform. The feet are in leather-soled shoes which don’t repel the hard, so-cold concrete of the stadium for the hours they are in contact. DH wears barn boots for full-day horse-keeping work and riding, and while LL Bean flannel-lined jeans and other cold weather layers keep body warm, even heavy boot socks don’t make the grade.

I found the sheepskin ones on Amazon (Abusa Sheepskin insoles, men and women, removable) at a very good price. There are some other products out there.

If you can keep your feet warm, along with a winning score as pointed out above, the day-long grind can be more tolerable.
 
Kicking myself that I didn't read this when my Mid was home, to send along some stuff. Im, sure he will figure it out, but would be nice to have sent all that cold weather stuff we have stored here, that he used for football season! do believe a care package is on the way...with thermals instead of cookies this time!
 
I did bring it up when my Plebe was home. He said "Dad, if the Navy thought we needed to wear long underwear, they would have issued it to us".
 
I did bring it up when my Plebe was home. He said "Dad, if the Navy thought we needed to wear long underwear, they would have issued it to us".

Ah, to be young, impervious to the elements and generally invincible, usually vocalized as “I’m good!”

The topic will come up as the time gets a bit closer and weather reports become specific. He will figure it out one way or another.

End of semester and exams come on very quickly after that weekend, A-N Week events can unpredictably interrupt planned studies, mids are generally exhausted after A-N weekend, colds and whatever’s going around find fertile ground in a packed crowd - so the prudent future JO plans to minimize the impact of the weather elements during a long day by using operational risk analysis, collecting historical gouge and insight, and maneuvering within allowed (and unseen) parameters to place him or herself in the best possible comfort zone that supports healthful resistance to exhaustion and illness. [emoji16]
That could be one of my longer sentences, fragments and rule-breaking elements all jumbled up.
 
I did bring it up when my Plebe was home. He said "Dad, if the Navy thought we needed to wear long underwear, they would have issued it to us".

All it takes is one Army Navy game to change their view on this. Or one night in the field in January. Sure the Marine Corps issued me stuff, but for a small investment I could have better stuff and be more comfortable that let me focus on my job better. To be young...
 
Asked my Mid. Told him I read about it here. “That’s a GREAT idea!” was the response.

Of course it’s a GREAT idea.

Sheepskin inserts ordered. Plus some for my DD’s stocking, who ALWAYS has cold feet. Those things look AMAZING.
 
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