Can Usafa see answers on sf86?

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Pretty much what the title says, can the academy see exactly what I say on the security clearance or only the acceptance/denial of it
 
Well you take the form with you to I-day, so I would imagine that yes they can see what you say. This also seems like a very specific question, so I would advise you to remember the honor code. You don’t want to be caught in a lie a few years down the line and have it impact your career or the people around you.
 
About the SF86 I am generally confused, do I list foreign relatives I regularly contact on the foreign contacts list or is it only for like foreign partners in business or something?
 
JP51 said:
About the SF86 I am generally confused, do I list foreign relatives I regularly contact on the foreign contacts list or is it only for like foreign partners in business or something?
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JP51 said:
About the SF86 I am generally confused, do I list foreign relatives I regularly contact on the foreign contacts list or is it only for like foreign partners in business or something?
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I'm writing this using my son's account. Due to my current work, I have to update my SF-86 annually. Definitely, you want to include all foreign relatives, all foreign friends, and all foreign business contacts. If you are in doubt, (example: I only talk with this person on FaceTime or Skype once a year, do I really need to list them?) always err on the side of caution and list them. Especially, annotate any foreign bank accounts, foreign property holdings, and foreign stocks. For me personally, every year I have to list (all Japanese nationals) my wife, mother-in-law, sister-in-law, a few personal friends, etc. Japanese citizens are not considered high risk, so listing them has never been a problem for me when I served active-duty in the US Navy, and now, in my current post-US Navy retirement employment as a DOD contractor. If, however, your foreign contacts are from riskier countries (Russia, China, etc.) you could have issues. These potential issues are not always insurmountable, but potentially, could require way more work on your and the people you have listed's ends providing additional detailed information. In regards to foreign financials, I cannot advise you properly because I don't have anything financially-related overseas. I would imagine things could become a bit tricky if you have to list a bunch of items and/or there's joint-ownership with a foreigner.

Also, be very careful annotating your foreign travel. On the SF-86 when they say "all" foreign travel they really mean it. It's not difficult for the investigators to check your travel records (every time your passport is scanned at the ticket counter/check-in kiosk departing or on your return from foreign travel at US Customs and Immigration the government knows when you left and returned to the US.) Additionally just to be on the safe side, I've always listed "layover transfers" in foreign countries required to reach my final overseas destination, even if that layover was less than a day and I didn't clear immigrations (left the airport past their immigration control area) of that country.
 
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You bring the sf86 packet with you to I day and hold onto it. Then during BCT, you have a day to input all that information into the computer system. And they use that to give you your respective security clearance.
 
JC2003 said:
I'm writing this using my son's account. Due to my current work, I have to update my SF-86 annually. Definitely, you want to include all foreign relatives, all foreign friends, and all foreign business contacts. If you are in doubt, (example: I only talk with this person on FaceTime or Skype once a year, do I really need to list them?) always err on the side of caution and list them. Especially, annotate any foreign bank accounts, foreign property holdings, and foreign stocks. For me personally, every year I have to list (all Japanese nationals) my wife, mother-in-law, sister-in-law, a few personal friends, etc. Japanese citizens are not considered high risk, so listing them has never been a problem for me when I served active-duty in the US Navy, and now, in my current post-US Navy retirement employment as a DOD contractor. If, however, your foreign contacts are from riskier countries (Russia, China, etc.) you could have issues. These potential issues are not always insurmountable, but potentially, could require way more work on your and the people you have listed's ends providing additional detailed information. In regards to foreign financials, I cannot advise you properly because I don't have anything financially-related overseas. I would imagine things could become a bit tricky if you have to list a bunch of items and/or there's joint-ownership with a foreigner.

Also, be very careful annotating your foreign travel. On the SF-86 when they say "all" foreign travel they really mean it. It's not difficult for the investigators to check your travel records (every time your passport is scanned at the ticket counter/check-in kiosk departing or on your return from foreign travel at US Customs and Immigration the government knows when you left and returned to the US.) Additionally just to be on the safe side, I've always listed "layover transfers" in foreign countries required to reach my final overseas destination, even if that layover was less than a day and I didn't clear immigrations (left the airport past their immigration control area) of that country.
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Thank you, I guess I might have a real hard time since my foreign travels are to China and the two grandfathers I contact are also in China.
 
JP51 said:
Thank you, I guess I might have a real hard time since my foreign travels are to China and the two grandfathers I contact are also in China.
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Not necessarily, it will likely just make it take longer or need more investigation. You will be far from the first person they will have seen with foreign relatives. The real issues and delays will probably not be for your initial investigation and secret clearance. It is the follow-on upgrades that get a much closer and more detailed examination.
 
OldRetSWO said:
Not necessarily, it will likely just make it take longer or need more investigation. You will be far from the first person they will have seen with foreign relatives. The real issues and delays will probably not be for your initial investigation and secret clearance. It is the follow-on upgrades that get a much closer and more detailed examination.
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Oh Ok understood, Thank you.
 
JP51 said:
Thank you, I guess I might have a real hard time since my foreign travels are to China and the two grandfathers I contact are also in China.
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Not necessarily. I was an exchange student in Spain in the 1970's and met a girl...she was from Poland (Communist Bloc country, dad was party member, etc...etc...) at my school. We became great friends!! We corresponded after I returned to the USA, even when I was a cadet.

At the academy, yes I listed her and yes, I was asked a BUNCH of questions...and that was that.

When I retired I had "clearances"...that I never EVER want to deal with again!!!

Just fill it out, do like OldRetSWO and JC2003 said: put it down and let the system do its thing.

Steve
 
flieger83 said:
Not necessarily. I was an exchange student in Spain in the 1970's and met a girl...she was from Poland (Communist Bloc country, dad was party member, etc...etc...) at my school. We became great friends!! We corresponded after I returned to the USA, even when I was a cadet.

At the academy, yes I listed her and yes, I was asked a BUNCH of questions...and that was that.

When I retired I had "clearances"...that I never EVER want to deal with again!!!

Just fill it out, do like OldRetSWO and JC2003 said: put it down and let the system do its thing.

Steve
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Thanks!
 
JP51 said:
Thank you, I guess I might have a real hard time since my foreign travels are to China and the two grandfathers I contact are also in China.
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Definitely, not necessarily! Just be completely honest with the investigators and submit any additional information they request accurately and expeditiously.
 
If you neglect to fill something out fully, it will cause way more issues than just putting in a ton of information from the outset. Higher level clearances are taking up to two years right now for other civilian agencies. Even at its peak (pre-Snowden), it still took close to 6-months for the fastest people that got them, and those had minimal contacts outside of the local area.
 
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