Class of 2020 numbers

shiner

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Percentage wise, I am very surprised at the level of attrition for USMMA. Does anyone know how that compares to the other 4 schools? USMMA is the only one I have heard speak about rolling a student back into a later class as a normal part of the experience. I know it happens at other SA, but I was under the impression those were generally for major medical issues that required substantial time out of the classroom. These are rare in my experience.
 

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Someone with access to the full stats from the other schools can chime in, but I believe USMMA may be the highest for attrition. The drop rate during Indoc, Beast, etc., are very similar, 1-1.5%. Then, it is during the first year that drops are heavy at USMMA, and then again after sea year. I do not know of where the statistics for set backs are. But, I do know that the 210 total graduate figure includes set backs originally in the class of 2019, who joined the 2020 class at some point in the past, and, do not include those who were set back from the class of 2020 into the class of 2021. That being said, assuming the number of set backs a class suffers, equal the number of set backs a class gains, the attrition rate is high. There are similar numbers, if not worse numbers, from past classes. The set backs can occur for medical issues, but they often occur for academic issues. I think, but could be wrong, the fact that there is a trimester system, and sea year is set up on two tracts that divide a class-A split and B split, the ability to take a class over the next trimester to address a failure is limited. (Currently, there is an attempt to remedy some of this with a third tract, but I am not fully aware of how it works, although i think it has started to be used )
 

shiner

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More so than the other SA, the Sea Year gives students a very clear picture of what their professional life would be like. Long times at sea are not for everyone, so I can see how the real world training could play a significant role in attrition - but then again, there are other commissioning options upon graduation, so one with an eye on the future may see the potential of the education and the opportunity presented to them by sticking with it... Unsure - but I do find the data interesting.
 

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Percentage wise, I am very surprised at the level of attrition for USMMA. Does anyone know how that compares to the other 4 schools? USMMA is the only one I have heard speak about rolling a student back into a later class as a normal part of the experience. I know it happens at other SA, but I was under the impression those were generally for major medical issues that required substantial time out of the classroom. These are rare in my experience.

What those numbers don't tell you attrition wise are set back numbers. Of the 279 who reported, I bet the number who graduated on time is closer to 180.
 

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What those numbers don't tell you attrition wise are set back numbers. Of the 279 who reported, I bet the number who graduated on time is closer to 180.
This fits with what I saw in my older sons class.. 283 reported and 185 graduated on time four years later. That's a little over 65%. His class had an additional 33 that were set back from previous classes, which I believe was a bit on the high side.. I think the set back policy, during Admiral Stewart's tenure as Superintendent, may have been a little more liberal then it is now.
 

shiner

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Wow! That is incredible. I am very surprised but glad there is a process in place to help mids get across the finish line.
 
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