Contracted Cadet Leaving ROTC

This happens at the SAs too. They play their cards close to the vest, get a free 2 years of college credits, voluntarily separate before classes start 2/c year. Any time you have a system designed to let people out who truly have a change of heart, that also leaves room for those who go into it knowing full well they have no plans to stay.
 
Your screen name alone is enough to please me to hear you’ll not be in a leadership position in the military.

Enjoy your free education in your dream career.
 
Devil Doc said:
Your screen name alone is enough to please me to hear you’ll not be in a leadership position in the military.

Enjoy your free education in your dream career.
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I think his screen name is enough to show that he's just out wanking our chains.
 
i dont understand the issue. Rotc gives you a year with scholarship and you can change your mind as long as you dont continue in year 2. So there is no money issue here. Non scholarship cadets get two years to change their minds, so it isnt anything strange. Secondly, if I read this correct, he is quiting after his first semester. If he was trying to scam (play the system) the system, he would have had his second semester paid for also and then quit. So if he did it for the money only, he is actually an idiot for quiting now. Third and most importantly, you are asking 17/18 year old kids (yes they are kids even if they are legal) to make a life changing decision that will impact their lfe for no less than 4 years. So he thought he wanted join Rotc while in High School and when he actually experienced it he decides he doesnt like it, wow what a surprise. I am surprised more people dont quit Rotc or the academies. You have this group of people who have no first hand experience about the military and people are surprised when they dont like it. My guess is that more people would quit the academies except that they put so much effort into it, that quiting becomes a failure rather than something you dont like. This kid earned his four year scholarship. He didnt like it and it didnt work out. That is why the miltary gives you time to change your mind and if its a waste of money, then based on what you read about government waste, this probabably represents 1% of 1% of the militayr budget. Just like having a draft where a huge percerntage of the people drafted dont want to be there, having officers who dont want to be isnt going to make for effective leaders
 
Humey said:
i dont understand the issue. Rotc gives you a year with scholarship and you can change your mind as long as you dont continue in year 2. So there is no money issue here. Non scholarship cadets get two years to change their minds, so it isnt anything strange. Secondly, if I read this correct, he is quiting after his first semester. If he was trying to scam (play the system) the system, he would have had his second semester paid for also and then quit. So if he did it for the money only, he is actually an idiot for quiting now. Third and most importantly, you are asking 17/18 year old kids (yes they are kids even if they are legal) to make a life changing decision that will impact their lfe for no less than 4 years. So he thought he wanted join Rotc while in High School and when he actually experienced it he decides he doesnt like it, wow what a surprise. I am surprised more people dont quit Rotc or the academies. You have this group of people who have no first hand experience about the military and people are surprised when they dont like it. My guess is that more people would quit the academies except that they put so much effort into it, that quiting becomes a failure rather than something you dont like. This kid earned his four year scholarship. He didnt like it and it didnt work out. That is why the miltary gives you time to change your mind and if its a waste of money, then based on what you read about government waste, this probabably represents 1% of 1% of the militayr budget. Just like having a draft where a huge percerntage of the people drafted dont want to be there, having officers who dont want to be isnt going to make for effective leaders
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Humey - you may have missed all of his comments. Go back and read how snarky his comments were about staying 2d semester just to get the $
 
Humey said:
i dont understand the issue. Rotc gives you a year with scholarship and you can change your mind as long as you dont continue in year 2. So there is no money issue here. Non scholarship cadets get two years to change their minds, so it isnt anything strange. Secondly, if I read this correct, he is quiting after his first semester. If he was trying to scam (play the system) the system, he would have had his second semester paid for also and then quit. So if he did it for the money only, he is actually an idiot for quiting now. Third and most importantly, you are asking 17/18 year old kids (yes they are kids even if they are legal) to make a life changing decision that will impact their lfe for no less than 4 years. So he thought he wanted join Rotc while in High School and when he actually experienced it he decides he doesnt like it, wow what a surprise. I am surprised more people dont quit Rotc or the academies. You have this group of people who have no first hand experience about the military and people are surprised when they dont like it. My guess is that more people would quit the academies except that they put so much effort into it, that quiting becomes a failure rather than something you dont like. This kid earned his four year scholarship. He didnt like it and it didnt work out. That is why the miltary gives you time to change your mind and if its a waste of money, then based on what you read about government waste, this probabably represents 1% of 1% of the militayr budget. Just like having a draft where a huge percerntage of the people drafted dont want to be there, having officers who dont want to be isnt going to make for effective leaders
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Something to add like I said I don’t have to withdraw right now I have up until the start of my third semester. So I can have them pay up until then. And I didn’t get into just for the money if my previous statements were unclear. I had and still have real aspirations to serve as an officer I even just auditioned for a airborne slot and I’ll probably get it. But things have became cloudy and I have serious doubts in my capacity to commission successfully. So that’s what I’m thinking to cut my losses right now and move forward. But I’m still on the fence honestly because I put so much work to get the scholarship so giving it up is excruciatingly painful. But I have to make the best decision for myself in the end.
 
Timmythewanker said:
So I can have them pay up until then. And I didn’t get into just for the money if my previous statements were unclear.
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You understand that this is a contradiction, right? From your posts it seems as though you have little to no respect for the opportunity you have been given. Many applicants want a 4 year ROTC scholarship more than anything and get turned down. Yet here you are saying that you will "stick it out for the spring session just so they can pay for my full year and then leave." It mystifies me how someone like this could even have had the honor of receiving such a scholarship...
 
I'm not clear on what the OP's intent was to post this. Certainly we try to help people in this community so I'll offer the following:

Yes, as an MS1, @Timmythewanker , you can complete your first year (both semesters or just one semester as you like) and then walk away/ owe nothing before you commit at the start of your sophomore year.

@Timmythewanker what you're not getting is that this community cares deeply about those training to serve or serving. Many of us have family who are or who have served. Some are current and former service members themselves. So you did the same as driving a Biden bus into Texas with your lousy attitude and lack of awareness that you took a slot over people who desperately wanted the opportunity. You seem glib on having "won" and you're missing the point that you won at someone else's expense.

Like I tell people who get out of dysfunctional relationships - thank goodness this didn't go too much further.

Look up reverence and respect and try to see where you might find some to display - it will only help you. So, yes please take the 1 or 2 free semesters and don't let the door hit you in the *ss.
 
"End of discussion its over army not for me." "I had and still have real aspirations to serve as an officer I even just auditioned for a airborne slot and I’ll probably get it."
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Huh? You say the army isn't for you, then you say you have "real aspirations to serve as an officer?"

Just a little advice: figure out what you want to do and why you want to do it. Don't try to fake it til you make it, it never works out in the end.
 
Humey said:
i dont understand the issue. Rotc gives you a year with scholarship and you can change your mind as long as you dont continue in year 2. So there is no money issue here. Non scholarship cadets get two years to change their minds, so it isnt anything strange. Secondly, if I read this correct, he is quiting after his first semester. If he was trying to scam (play the system) the system, he would have had his second semester paid for also and then quit. So if he did it for the money only, he is actually an idiot for quiting now. Third and most importantly, you are asking 17/18 year old kids (yes they are kids even if they are legal) to make a life changing decision that will impact their lfe for no less than 4 years. So he thought he wanted join Rotc while in High School and when he actually experienced it he decides he doesnt like it, wow what a surprise. I am surprised more people dont quit Rotc or the academies. You have this group of people who have no first hand experience about the military and people are surprised when they dont like it. My guess is that more people would quit the academies except that they put so much effort into it, that quiting becomes a failure rather than something you dont like. This kid earned his four year scholarship. He didnt like it and it didnt work out. That is why the miltary gives you time to change your mind and if its a waste of money, then based on what you read about government waste, this probabably represents 1% of 1% of the militayr budget. Just like having a draft where a huge percerntage of the people drafted dont want to be there, having officers who dont want to be isnt going to make for effective leaders
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For me, it’s the presentation and attitude of OP. Hopefully it’s bc he/she is on an anonymous forum. The way that SA’s and ROTC scholarships are set up (try it out For a period of time), imo, is awesome and allows exactly this situation to play out successfully for both parties. OP comes off as lacking gratitude, and a “stick it to ‘ya” attitude. Perhaps that’s not the intent....
 
wank·er. /ˈwaNGkər/

noun VULGAR SLANG•BRITISH
noun: wanker; plural noun: wankers
a contemptible person (used as a general term of abuse).
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Interesting. First hit on Google. Seems appropriate, but odd for someone to embrace that term for themselves.
 
Timmythewanker said:
Something to add like I said I don’t have to withdraw right now I have up until the start of my third semester. So I can have them pay up until then. And I didn’t get into just for the money if my previous statements were unclear. I had and still have real aspirations to serve as an officer I even just auditioned for a airborne slot and I’ll probably get it. But things have became cloudy and I have serious doubts in my capacity to commission successfully. So that’s what I’m thinking to cut my losses right now and move forward. But I’m still on the fence honestly because I put so much work to get the scholarship so giving it up is excruciatingly painful. But I have to make the best decision for myself in the end.
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If you have personal issue with current schoolmates and/or rotc unit, you might consider to change to a different college, instead of quitting the rotc. Through my research for the last couple of years, military (SAs or ROTC) is a good place to shape oneself to be a good person and a leader. Please treasure the opportunity you have obtained through your hard work. We experience difficulties here and there, and perseverance will help us go through patches.
 
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