DoDMERB Guidance to Applicants and Parents from the Deputy Chief, DoDMERB

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28 years in this job has afforded me the opportunity to provide this guidance. John Wooden was probably the greatest college basketball coach in history = "“Failing to prepare is preparing to fail.” If the applicants don't do this themselves, I've seen the disastrous results...repeatedly. In the confines of the home, parents can and should help guide their DS/DD/GN/TG prospective applicants to navigate the pathway, but the congressional staffs, Academy Admissions, DoDMERB, etc., want to see/hear the APPLICANTS. They also asked John Wooden how he was so calm on the bench in tense moments (unlike almost every coach of today!), though this is not the exact quote, it's darned close: I work during the week...teaching and coaching...during the game, is when the players have to transfer that teaching and coaching to execution...If I did well, they'll do well....If I didn't, they won't. But "the game" is illustrative of life....teach in private and let them flourish with your guidance and their personal motivation and skills.

So as you read this, perform a self-assessment of yourself as either an APPLICANT or a parent. Son/daughter of any President who applies to an SA or an ROTC program...if I received an email from any President of the United States...My first line would be (and has been to very prominent parents or parents in general),..Mr President, for the purposes of this exercise, you are just Dad..and we don't need to talk.

I do add some Je Na Sais Quoi to parents: The midwestern, single parent, that has no military associations whatsoever, I'll be more nurturing. The General, Admiral, Command Sergeant Major (respective Chiefs and Command or Master Chiefs) who certainly know better and are truly trying to ply their influence, will be put in their place immediately. FINAL NOTE: THIS PROCESS IS ABOUT THE APPLICANT.


DoDMERB is the sole authority for rendering DoDMERB medical decisions. None of the myriad of on-line Forums or civilian consulting agencies that “assist” applicants in this process, have any authority regarding DoDMERB determinations. So if you start your communiqué with “They said” or “I paid money to,” well…, you get my point.

Many of you DON’T have ties to the military, so this process maybe somewhat daunting.
We’ll help you :)

Many of you and/or your parents DO have ties to the military. The standards and process have changed over the years and we don’t want you to be confused by the way it “used to be.”
We’ll help you :)

If you have any questions regarding the process; your case specifically; the standards; etc; please email the Helpdesk. While this is an Applicant Reference Guide, the operative word is “applicant.”
We’ll help you :)


APPLICANTS ONLY (If your parents read this part, you’ll know why I wrote it this way:)) – This is
YOUR future, YOUR application, and it needs to be YOUR decision. Parents are very useful in providing YOU sage advice and counsel…in the background…say again, IN THE BACKGROUND. YOU should take all actions regarding YOUR application. If YOU are offered an appointment to one/more Service Academy and/or are awarded a scholarship to an ROTC Program(s), guess what? Your parents do NOT get to attend with YOU While the Service Academies and ROTC programs have bunk beds---those are for your roommates, not your parents! Therefore, this process begins that transition of YOUR independence. Again, they can assist YOU, but YOU should be the lead on all application actions. They should be like the military guidon bearer --- YOU are the Commander and they should be one step to the right and one step behind. They can discuss anything and everything with YOU, just not DODMERB. Go easy on them. This will NOT be an easy thing for them to do…to start to let go :)

PARENTS: While I’ve emphasized the above to a fault, I can only share with you my vast experience in this area. Your wisdom will be deeply appreciated by your son or daughter, but the “action” part of this exercise is best for all, when the applicant takes direct ownership of THEIR process, with Admissions, Congressional Nominations, DoDMERB, etc. :)
 
Excellent advice. Many thanks for reminding all of us about the importance of ensuring the APPLICANT takes control of this process.
 
Thank you for all the great advice as usual. Question: Should I advise my DS who is "Under Waiver Review" to contact his designated DODMERB technician (or SA admissions counselors) to see if anything else can or should be provided at this point, or is the better advice to my DS to sit tight? SA applications are all marked Complete.
 
BunkerDog1. Have your DS go to https://dodmerb.tricare.osd.mil. Hit "questions about the process." If he meets the criteria in paragraphs 11-12...then 15-20 will apply. BUT, 11-12 are the trigger and only the SA admissions folks can answer the question is a medical waiver is being pursued.
 
So, there are a myriad of opinions on this issue and mine is only one. So I'll provide some clarification that may help. If some folks still don't think this works for them, then don't follow it.

1. I am NOT a physician.

2. I am NOT a parent.

3. Without any subterfuge in the least, the first paragraph below is designed to be motivational for applicants and provide some Jersey Barriers around the issue of the WHO regarding an applicant's application.

4. At NOT time did I ever say parents should not be involved. The point is, when in direct communication with anyone involved in an applicant's application, the LEAD should be taken by the applicant.

5. Parents are specifically called out as having "...sage advice and counsel…in the background…say again, IN THE BACKGROUND. " AND " Your wisdom will be deeply appreciated by your son or daughter, but the “action” part of this exercise is best for all, when the applicant takes direct ownership of THEIR process, with Admissions, Congressional Nominations, DoDMERB, etc."

a. In other words, this IS a "FAMILY" endeavor and journey. NO dispute.

b. All that is being stated are the actions...not that "some" applicants don't have a requirement to drive to and/or attend the exams or to have parental authorizations for some things...clearly they do.

c. The issue being conveyed is that all communications with Admissions, Congressional Nominations, DoDMERB, etc., should emanate from ..."the applicant." Of course, most 17 and 18 year old applicants may not know their medical history. They complete their medical history on-line, in the comfort/security of their own home/apartment/shelter device. Parents certainly can participate, if that's what that family model is (as stated many times...there are different type applicants, and families.

d. Most young folks today, have never had the experience of an interview for anything. Parents counsel can prove invaluable input in this and many other areas. Practicing interview techniques; the physical set up, etc. BUT, as you all know, the interview, will ONLY be with the applicant.

e. But, the direct contacts...should be made by the applicant. All of us involved in this process and know it's a government process with all the inherent bureaucratic mile posts. Phone calls don't always work for the student, emails can be sent at anytime.

6. Thank you for this opportunity.

To assist in clarity, I've altered the colors below for emphasis.


APPLICANTS ONLY (If your parents read this part, you’ll know why I wrote it this wayJ) – This is YOUR future, YOUR application, and it needs to be YOUR decision. Parents are very useful in providing YOU sage advice and counsel…in the background…say again, IN THE BACKGROUND. YOU should take all actions regarding YOUR application. If YOU are offered an appointment to one/more Service Academy and/or are awarded a scholarship to an ROTC Program(s), guess what? Your parents do NOT get to attend with YOUJ While the Service Academies and ROTC programs have bunk beds---those are for your roommates, not your parents! Therefore, this process begins that transition of YOUR independence. Again, they can assist YOU, but YOU should be the lead on all application actions. They should be like the military guidon bearer --- YOU are the Commander and they should be one step to the right and one step behind YOU. They can discuss anything and everything with YOU, just not DODMERB. Go easy on them. This will NOT be an easy thing for them to do…to start to let goJ

PARENTS: While I’ve emphasized the above to a fault, I can only share with you my vast experience in this area. Your wisdom will be deeply appreciated by your son or daughter, but the “action” part of this exercise is best for all, when the applicant takes direct ownership of THEIR process, with Admissions, Congressional Nominations, DoDMERB, etc.J
 
So, there are a myriad of opinions on this issue and mine is only one. So I'll provide some clarification that may help. If some folks still don't think this works for them, then don't follow it.

1. I am NOT a physician.

2. I am NOT a parent.

3. Without any subterfuge in the least, the first paragraph below is designed to be motivational for applicants and provide some Jersey Barriers around the issue of the WHO regarding an applicant's application.

4. At NOT time did I ever say parents should not be involved. The point is, when in direct communication with anyone involved in an applicant's application, the LEAD should be taken by the applicant.

5. Parents are specifically called out as having "...sage advice and counsel…in the background…say again, IN THE BACKGROUND. " AND " Your wisdom will be deeply appreciated by your son or daughter, but the “action” part of this exercise is best for all, when the applicant takes direct ownership of THEIR process, with Admissions, Congressional Nominations, DoDMERB, etc."

a. In other words, this IS a "FAMILY" endeavor and journey. NO dispute.

b. All that is being stated are the actions...not that "some" applicants don't have a requirement to drive to and/or attend the exams or to have parental authorizations for some things...clearly they do.

c. The issue being conveyed is that all communications with Admissions, Congressional Nominations, DoDMERB, etc., should emanate from ..."the applicant." Of course, most 17 and 18 year old applicants may not know their medical history. They complete their medical history on-line, in the comfort/security of their own home/apartment/shelter device. Parents certainly can participate, if that's what that family model is (as stated many times...there are different type applicants, and families.

d. Most young folks today, have never had the experience of an interview for anything. Parents counsel can prove invaluable input in this and many other areas. Practicing interview techniques; the physical set up, etc. BUT, as you all know, the interview, will ONLY be with the applicant.

e. But, the direct contacts...should be made by the applicant. All of us involved in this process and know it's a government process with all the inherent bureaucratic mile posts. Phone calls don't always work for the student, emails can be sent at anytime.

6. Thank you for this opportunity.

To assist in clarity, I've altered the colors below for emphasis.


APPLICANTS ONLY (If your parents read this part, you’ll know why I wrote it this wayJ) – This is YOUR future, YOUR application, and it needs to be YOUR decision. Parents are very useful in providing YOU sage advice and counsel…in the background…say again, IN THE BACKGROUND. YOU should take all actions regarding YOUR application. If YOU are offered an appointment to one/more Service Academy and/or are awarded a scholarship to an ROTC Program(s), guess what? Your parents do NOT get to attend with YOUJ While the Service Academies and ROTC programs have bunk beds---those are for your roommates, not your parents! Therefore, this process begins that transition of YOUR independence. Again, they can assist YOU, but YOU should be the lead on all application actions. They should be like the military guidon bearer --- YOU are the Commander and they should be one step to the right and one step behind YOU. They can discuss anything and everything with YOU, just not DODMERB. Go easy on them. This will NOT be an easy thing for them to do…to start to let goJ

PARENTS: While I’ve emphasized the above to a fault, I can only share with you my vast experience in this area. Your wisdom will be deeply appreciated by your son or daughter, but the “action” part of this exercise is best for all, when the applicant takes direct ownership of THEIR process, with Admissions, Congressional Nominations, DoDMERB, etc.J
 
Larry, back in early 2008
you immediately came to my son’s assistance when I was desperately seeking help and answers on this forum( at midnight as I recall)He had a last minute medical DQ due to a previous year’s bout with mono and an enlarged spleen. Your advice, guidance and experience absolutely made a huge difference in his medical waiver and appeal process ! He commissioned at USNA in 2012 and is AD NAVY today ! He just finished a rewarding 2 year assignment as a department head aboard USS ZUMWALT , DDG-1000.
GO NAVY !
Thanks,
JGW
 
The honor and privilege was ours indeed!
 
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