Does anyone ever get a Waiver for Hear loss?

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nico98

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Hello everyone,
I am still on CPR and I was wondering if anyone got a waiver for hear loss. Thanks
 
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I know a recruited athlete with a hearing loss who graduated from USMA. Although the hearing loss did not become worse while at USMA, they were not commissioned because of it.
 
Classof83 said:
I know a recruited athlete with a hearing loss who graduated from USMA. Although the hearing loss did not become worse while at USMA, they were not commissioned because of it.
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I certainly hope there is more to that story than meets the eye. USMA (or any service academy) should not be granting waivers to anyone who cannot meet Commissioning standards.
 
Old Navy BGO said:
Classof83 said:
I know a recruited athlete with a hearing loss who graduated from USMA. Although the hearing loss did not become worse while at USMA, they were not commissioned because of it.
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I certainly hope there is more to that story than meets the eye. USMA (or any service academy) should not be granting waivers to anyone who cannot meet Commissioning standards.
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In other words you are not favors of waivers?
 
There is a difference; being able to get a waiver and commission and a condition that is waivered and that person is not commissionable. Tons of folks get waivers. For someone who is a recruited athlete it even raises the spidey senses more because it makes it sound like medical standards were compromised for the sake of the sport. I doubt West Point did that. We don't know the whole story. Tons of folks get waivers every year. Very few do not commission after 4 years. They are generally extreme cases and stuff that develops during the 4 years at a SA: type 1, Chrones, cancer, extreme depression, an major ortho injury.
 
I said there was no change in the condition over the 4 years. That's a fact. I saw the report. Now you know the whole story.
 
nico98 said:
Old Navy BGO said:
Classof83 said:
I know a recruited athlete with a hearing loss who graduated from USMA. Although the hearing loss did not become worse while at USMA, they were not commissioned because of it.
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I certainly hope there is more to that story than meets the eye. USMA (or any service academy) should not be granting waivers to anyone who cannot meet Commissioning standards.
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In other words you are not favors of waivers?
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Absolutely no problem with waivers as long as the the candidate can be Commissioned and serve as Officer on graduation. That is the mission of all of the Service Academies. I have a big problem if a Service Academy admits a candidate knowing that person is not qualified (or will not be qualified) for a commission when they enter, which is the scenario Class of 83 suggesting. I also recognize that circumstances can change, and persons may be disqualified during the course of the 4 year period, and have no problem letting them continue and graduate --but to start with a person who cannot serve is just plain wrong.
 
Please don't put words in my mouth Old Navy BGO ("...the Service Academy admits a candidate knowing that person is not qualified...for a commission, which is the scenario that the Classof83 is suggesting). The OP asked if anyone knew of someone getting a hearing waiver and I wrote that I know of a recruited athlete who received a medical waiver for a hearing deficiency for appointment and without there being a change in the condition, a commissioning waiver was not granted. I am personally familiar with this. I didn't suggest anything else. This may be the sole incidence of this happening in the history of all service academies or it has happened a thousand times. I have no idea and make no other "suggestion" other than the details of this personally known case. So don't write that I suggested something that I didn't . Thanks!
 
Just read this one and have to say Class of 83 I agree, I do not think what you wrote suggested anything. I think what you didn't write suggested it. The lack of details is where the suggestion is made. Most of all I think this is a CLASSIC CASE of typed words on a screen, without tone, inflection, or body language as in typical conversation, being construed different ways by different people. Dang, my husband and I almost go to war in texts because what we type comes across really mean and nasty but if we were saying those same words to each other in person it wouldn't be taken that way. So please go easy on OldNavyBGO, he's a beacon to some of us baby parents who hope one day our kids are in the position to argue intelligently with him like you just did. He may be salty but he's ours! :)
 
Class of 83 -- I apologize if I put words in your mouth. I read to much into the statement that nothing changed from admission until graduation, was swayed by the belief that standards should not be compromised for the football program, and jumped to a conclusion. I do stand by my underlying statement that a Service Academy should not admit someone that is not physically qualified for commissioning.

Thanks WonderGirl -- don't worry about me. I have a hard shell, and have been flamed by the Class of 1983 before (probably not the poster specifically, but classmates).
 
Old Navy BGO - Sorry that I missed this post and that it has taken me a few days to respond. Apology accepted.

If I were to hazard a guess as to what happened in this case (and it is pure speculation on my part), I would say that when the athlete was admitted, commissioning waivers were being granted given the needs of the service (Iraq and Afghanistan) and perhaps after four years and a drawdown, the needs changed and waivers were no longer granted for the same condition.
 
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