Just in case it helps a candidate and/or parents going forward… DD had her AROTC interview with PMS from Cornell. He told her that Cornell will release students accepted via ED if they receive an appointment and choose to attend a service academy. This was confirmed by Admissions. Hope this helps someone!
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The PMS from Cornell AROTC told my DD the same thing a couple weeks ago. My DD decided to apply to Cornell ED after hearing this information. He also said they keep in contact with the admissions office during the application process. Does anybody know if you get a bump in admissions if you are also applying for ROTC scholarship at that school? She listed Cornell as her #1 choice for AROTC scholarship.
ROTC person confirmed the same over email, Cornell admissions don’t know anything about it. Unfortunately, in situations like that no one can go by what is in the email or mentioned anonymously on a forum. Need a more substance and support documentation from the Cornell itself.
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This is super confusing to me and all of these recent emails from non-admission personnel are making it worse. I had a very lengthy call with admissions and this is my understanding. I have been told that they will allow you to change from ED to RD after the first board results are announced - that is only like 10 days. That is only because the ED deadline is before the first board results. If you don't get first board, you go to RD. However, based upon my understanding from them if you do get first board - you then need to pull academy applications and commit to that school. If you are doing just ROTC - probably works for the first board. If you are also doing academy applications, then I don't think it works. I think this gives you a 10 day or so grace period and nothing more. If someone is telling you that you can apply ED and wait 6+ months until April to find out if you get an appointment that is not what I am hearing at all.
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What is shared above by OP and others is interesting and helpful. I would seek to be prudent in understanding all downstream impacts of an ED application - make sure you can afford to attend any university you are Early Decision committing regardless/ without knowing yet what if any merit, financial or ROTC scholarship that may or may not be coming (or that you may not be able to keep qualified for all the way through). I don't care how strong of a candidate you think you are - ROtC scholarships/ SA admissions are no guarantee for most.
Has it been confirmed - would hearing you are early decision elsewhere impact the opinion of the SA admission teams and their interest to offer you acceptance into their fine institutions? If I were USNA/ USMA/ USAFA and I knew a candidate was ED to an ivy, I would think those SAs would be less interested in offering the candidate admission- they want people who want to go there. I think the Cornell ROO (is this Mark Bevers for Army?) is using the tools available to get the best students to commit to Cornell, but that guidance to go ED at Cornell IMO is NOT advantageous for your other applications - I think to some extent it weakens your positions.
Per the very recent post above as a candidate, are you OK to pull your SA applications or decline your acceptances if they happen quickly, if the ED application to Cornell et al. yield binding acceptances. I correlate curiosity with intelligence, and would want to know IF the SA would have accepted me vs deleting my application before it's necessarily processed (or auto-declining an offer if it's decided sooner). I think for these rock star young adults it's a great process to have a bouquet of acceptances and offers they are in the driver's seat to choose from. This ED agreement may take a lot of that off the table (anticlimactic/ predetermination) Early decision agreements do offer candidates some measure of a competitive advantage but the cost for that advantage is so lopsided in favor of the university vs the applicant. Good luck y'all.
Has it been confirmed - would hearing you are early decision elsewhere impact the opinion of the SA admission teams and their interest to offer you acceptance into their fine institutions? If I were USNA/ USMA/ USAFA and I knew a candidate was ED to an ivy, I would think those SAs would be less interested in offering the candidate admission- they want people who want to go there. I think the Cornell ROO (is this Mark Bevers for Army?) is using the tools available to get the best students to commit to Cornell, but that guidance to go ED at Cornell IMO is NOT advantageous for your other applications - I think to some extent it weakens your positions.
Per the very recent post above as a candidate, are you OK to pull your SA applications or decline your acceptances if they happen quickly, if the ED application to Cornell et al. yield binding acceptances. I correlate curiosity with intelligence, and would want to know IF the SA would have accepted me vs deleting my application before it's necessarily processed (or auto-declining an offer if it's decided sooner). I think for these rock star young adults it's a great process to have a bouquet of acceptances and offers they are in the driver's seat to choose from. This ED agreement may take a lot of that off the table (anticlimactic/ predetermination) Early decision agreements do offer candidates some measure of a competitive advantage but the cost for that advantage is so lopsided in favor of the university vs the applicant. Good luck y'all.
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When are ROTC Board results announced? We heard around 10 Nov does that match what you heard?
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I am also hearing 11/10. Good luck!
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Thanks for posting/ sharing. Are any candidates/ candidate families concerned about the impact of going ED at one school will have on your other SA/ other college application competitiveness, or that you're committing to go to that school before knowing what if any scholarships or aid (merit or financial aid) you'll receive? ED agreements make me cringe for anyone who doesn't have money out the wazoo. $88,150 for one year x 4.
I confirmed with Cornell Admissions
DD having an LOA to West Point certainly relieves some of the stress in terms of impact to SA applications but, upon submission, she will reach out to each of her admissions contacts and advise them of her ED application but that it was confirmed she would be released if she is offered an appointment.
Most ED schools will also release you if you are unable to afford COA after receiving financial aid. Cornell is one of them and, even if accepted ED, does not require applicants to withdraw other outstanding applications until receipt/confirmation that the student can actually afford to attend. I believe most financial aid packages go out in March.
Come on, brother - I wouldn’t post something like that without first directly confirming with admissions!
This came directly from LTC Fitzpatrick during DD’s PMS interview. I was skeptical, hence immediate contact with Cornell afterwards. In terms of getting the best students to commit, I’m not sure Cornell (or any of the Ivy/Ivy+ schools) is hurting for that, at least in terms of demonstrated academic/EA performance.
As an addendum, DD (and subsequently us) had discussions with her guidance counselor re: all of this, because there are agreements that need to be signed for ED.
My broader point is, even as Restrictive EA varies in its practice/conditions from school to school, it doesn’t hurt to ask the question about service academies and ED at an admissions office.
Agreed. While I do think West Point is DD’s first choice, there is a very real possibility that her medical waiver(s) could be denied. Cornell is absolutely her top choice for civilian schools. @SeePower why wouldn’t she apply early *knowing* that, if she is fortunate enough to be accepted to her top school (and benefit from the statistical advantage of applying early) AND clear waivers, she can still accept her appointment? Maybe this is a different scenario if not staring down the waiver process, but her approval is definitely not a gimme.
In terms of school involvement, you can apply to as many schools as you want. Its tending plans B-Z. But, if accepted ED, you have withdraw your open applications in accordance with ED school’s policies. As I don’t have $90k sitting around for COA, that wouldn’t be until Spring, when we confirm we can make it work with financial aid.