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What is the difference between Engineering Duty Officer work and See Bee Engineering Officer work? Asking for a friend. Both designations are engineers but what is the actual work that you are doing difference? Txs
 
Here is a good write up about EDO:

www.navy.com

U.S. Navy Engineering Duty Officer Careers | Navy.com

Your path to becoming a successful engineer starts here. Get world-class training to kick-start your career. See training and degree opportunities.
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CEC officers are professional engineers and architects, acquisitions specialists and Seabee Combat Warfare Officers. They are responsible for executing and managing the planning, design, acquisition, construction, operation, and maintenance of the Navy's shore facilities.
 
I could be wrong, but I thought EDO are more related to the ship side, and Seabee is more Civil engineering side. EDO's are in charge with ship refits/building/designing, etc. Where Seabee's are more the shore side of the equation.

My DS just expressed some interest in EDO recently, so I have learned more about it. Though I am still learning.
 
CEC is Staff Corps, non-line officer community, with officer accession coming primarily from civil engineers from civilian schools via direct commission (not USNA or NROTC). Occasionally, a color-blind or otherwise NPQ USNA grad will be allowed to go into CEC. It’s a great community. Builder-warriors! They go to all kinds of interesting places.





EDO (not to be confused with the Unrestricted Line EOD community), is a Restricted Line community whose officers usually attain their warfare qualification in a URL community (surface, submarine, aviation, etc.) and competitively apply to a lateral transfer and redesignation board to transfer into EDO. EDOs focus on the moving parts of the Navy, full lifecycle from vision, design, new build, renovation, launch, maintenance, repair, refit, decommission, etc. Another great community. I believe there is a SWO-ED option out of USNA and NROTC. Go SWO, qualify, sustained superior performance, guaranteed lat transfer.



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Both of these communities’ officers are eligible for command positions within their specialties but not outside them (hence “restricted” and “staff”). They are highly specialized and work within their specialties during their career. Upon separation or retirement, they are sought after and well-equipped, with advanced technical and professional qualifications, program/project manager experience, business acumen, etc. One of my closest Navy friends, now a retired captain, bills well northwards of $300K a year as an independent expert witness who provides written analyses and testimony in shipyard lawsuits. Her rep as a straight-shooter, who won’t spin her opinions to suit a desired narrative, has made her highly sought after. She had any number of offers after she retired. Loved her career.
 
And correct me if I’m wrong but if you have your SWO pin, apply for EDO, get a spot, you will be sent to get a masters once they move you over from SWO to EDO. It seems to involve more than an undergraduate engineering degree. So, if you aren’t into more college-EDO wouldn’t seem to be a good fit. Looks like SeeBees just require an undergrad degree. But - any restricted line seems to be limited billets.
 
Lucy said:
And correct me if I’m wrong but if you have your SWO pin, apply for EDO, get a spot, you will be sent to get a masters once they move you over from SWO to EDO. It seems to involve more than an undergraduate engineering degree. So, if you aren’t into more college-EDO wouldn’t seem to be a good fit. Looks like SeeBees just require an undergrad degree. But - any restricted line seems to be limited billets.
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Yes, correct. The fellow captain friend I mentioned above and I met at the Naval Postgraduate School in Monterey. She had come off ship duty as a SWO, and was at NPS getting her engineering M.S., transitioned to EDO while there and headed to her first EDO assignment in San Diego after that. She toggled among San Diego, Norfolk and DC after that, with a ship tour as Chief Engineer on an aircraft carrier thrown in.
 
My son told me a masters degree in CEC is required if you want to promote.
 
Lucy said:
And correct me if I’m wrong but if you have your SWO pin, apply for EDO, get a spot, you will be sent to get a masters once they move you over from SWO to EDO. It seems to involve more than an undergraduate engineering degree. So, if you aren’t into more college-EDO wouldn’t seem to be a good fit. Looks like SeeBees just require an undergrad degree. But - any restricted line seems to be limited billets.
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Here is the program authorization 101A form for SWO-ED. It gives all the specifics for SWO-ED.
https://www.mynavyhr.navy.mil/Portals/55/Career/OCM/PA-101A_EDO_Option_Jan-2023.pdf?ver=Pq6MLYyLoER3xgVdUkx96A==

This doesn't mention it, but you have to go to NPS through the SWO quota of candidates, or MIT through the EDO quota for your Masters. You then have a chance to get boarded in the EDO and if approved, you complete the lateral transfer to EDO. Submarine -ED is the same, but you have to complete a Division Officer tour before you can apply for EDO. This also means that without qualifying for a masters program, you cannot get EDO.

The way I read everything. EDO doesn't necessarily send you to get your masters. You have to qualify in SWO or SUB for a spot in the Masters quota for these two communities, or qualify for a EDO quota at MIT. If all qualifications are then met, you can apply for the board. Basically you are still a SWO or SUB until you qualify in the board and then transfer. Rather than Being in a EDO "pipeline" the entire time.

And yes...there would be a possiblilty of getting your masters of engineering at MIT which would be amazing.
 
A1Janitor said:
My son told me a masters degree in CEC is required if you want to promote.
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For all officers, having a Master’s degree in an approved field of study is pretty much necessary to promote past O-5.

For CEC officers, an excerpt from one of the links I posted above:

Graduate School: The Navy sends all career-minded CEC officers to fully-funded graduate school. That means that tuition is paid and the officer receives all of his/her pay to go to school full time without any additional duties. Normally officer are selected to go to graduate school after they have been in the Navy at least six years but before they have reached ten years of service. Deciding which school to attend and degree type is left to each individual officer, subject to Navy approval. There is an additional obligation (typically about three years) associated with going to graduate school. For a list of approved schools, consult your regional Accessions Officer.
 
Ihavenoidea said:
Here is the program authorization 101A form for SWO-ED. It gives all the specifics for SWO-ED.
https://www.mynavyhr.navy.mil/Portals/55/Career/OCM/PA-101A_EDO_Option_Jan-2023.pdf?ver=Pq6MLYyLoER3xgVdUkx96A==

This doesn't mention it, but you have to go to NPS through the SWO quota of candidates, or MIT through the EDO quota for your Masters. You then have a chance to get boarded in the EDO and if approved, you complete the lateral transfer to EDO. Submarine -ED is the same, but you have to complete a Division Officer tour before you can apply for EDO. This also means that without qualifying for a masters program, you cannot get EDO.

The way I read everything. EDO doesn't necessarily send you to get your masters. You have to qualify in SWO or SUB for a spot in the Masters quota for these two communities, or qualify for a EDO quota at MIT. If all qualifications are then met, you can apply for the board. Basically you are still a SWO or SUB until you qualify in the board and then transfer. Rather than Being in a EDO "pipeline" the entire time.

And yes...there would be a possiblilty of getting your masters of engineering at MIT which would be amazing.
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Good stuff. My friend was a Ga Tech Mech E undergrad and went to OCS. She was one of the first women to get SWO qualified and was a top performer, so doors opened.
 
When I was an LCDR in the USNR, some EDOs that I worked with in my civilian job tried very hard to "recruit" me
into their units. EDO has (or did have at the time) different designators for entry level and fully qualified EDs just
as is the case for Subs/SWO/Aviation. At that time, you could not progress to "qualified" in the USNR unless you
had a Masters in Engineering with no exceptions.
That was why I did not switch over as I had an MBA and no plans to go and get an MS in Eng at my own expense.
Note that the job that they wanted to qualify me to do was one that I was already successfully doing for a major and
well respected corporation and the people who were recruiting me who were senior EDOs who wanted me because of
that expertise.
 
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